Trump's new immigration ban ... again rediculous BS!

I think that I don't need to post about his news any links as source, because reported everywhere..

Trump did again, this time he thinks to be smarter by excluding Iraq and so reducing to 6 countries, as well some other changes as for example the Green Card owners etc. ... but you know what?

The BS is under the bottom lime the same and I must really ask why are people so blind not to see that this ban and order is only worthless crap and does not even do what Trump tells and promises!
More as that, all these Trumponians here who defended this BS order in the past and who reasoned it in core with Iraq inside must normally now being upset ... but for sure do not and being calm sheep's who follow their Messiahs in White House further!

Of course has the US as every other country the right to defend their people and territory against terror threats and no one denies this ... so please forgot this lame arguments that anyone who is against this ban is wanting to put USA into danger.
The point is that this ban prevents nothing and brings not a spark more safety against terror ... and this is a crystal clear fact which only dumbasses will deny!

One good example is Iran, still being on list! Sure, hostile country since 1979 for the USA as we all know ... even when latest investigations show that the embassy attack had some good reasons, because when embassy is miss-used as CIA station and HQ for counter revolution against Khomeini.
So OK, no Iranian without Green Card and so on is allowed to enter the USA and this will help now what? Answer is NOTHING for what Iran is put onto list!
Any Iranian agent of their secret service is for sure smart enough to enter with wrong identity, eh?
And if you come with this evil Hezbollah now, it will be ridiculous and shows clear lack of knowledge! Hezbollah is of course Iranian backed, but they are siting in which country again? Lebanon! Ehm ... is Lebanon on the list? No...

And last but not least ... Of all terror acts in the USA since 9/11/2001 was only ONE SINGLE PERSON COMING FROM ONE OF THESE 6 or 7 COUNTRIES! And if we take terror attacks in Europe into account too, then the number will not really being bigger, because 3 more Syrians and 4 Iraqi of Paris attack, but Iraq is not yet on the new list!

So in conclusion: Total BS and hopefully this new order will be buried soon by justice and hopefully there will be more brain used in White House in future ... but I have serious doubts that there is enough brain available!

 

Trump is doing the right thing.
You don't want America to look like Europe (full of Musllims), do you?

 

Oh dear ... really? This same BS blabbering of this so bad looking Europe again as answer + a stubborn "Trump is doing the right thing" only?

Lame ... really lame! But OK, it is your Messiahs in White House, so believe what you want, even in BS like here.

But why is Iran on list and not Lebanon too please? Why is not Saudi Arabia on list too please?

 

Absolutely right - as they say, it's a no-brainer. I wish that our useless excuse for a government had done the same with Sweden and Germany being the exemplars, but even for us it's too late: for the US it isn't, and you're doing what needs to be done in the nick of time. You undoubtedly have jihadists there already but to add to their number is nothing short of insane.

 

Really Cerberus?

Then explain me what is now safer fore the USA by putting Iran on the list! Please let me know what it is in your opinion!
And by the way ... these no-brainers from the right who are such dumbasses to see realities have not told that about 40% of these so dangerous refugees are not Muslims, eh? But these no brainers of the right tell you that the refugees make the terror danger bigger, eh? So will be interesting how a Christian refugee from Syria who fled because having 10min to flee or being killed by ISIS in his home town can be an Islamic terror danger as these righty morons tell, but maybe you can explain me?

 

I'm sorry, Mandelus, but as I've said to you before, I don't have the patience, time, nor the inclination to interpret the nuances in your posts. We'll just have to accept we have opposing opinions? I assure you that it isn't personal, just that the time which I can allot to posting is limited.

 

I'm a pretty levelheaded guy, & there isn't a racist, or Religionists bone in my body....

This travel ban, restriction, whatever you choose to call it, seems simply bold, reasonable, & not only fair, (comparing even our neighbor to the South...), but even handed.... All things considered.

And no, ........ I voted Johnson.

 

Not the patience or not the willing to answer uncomfortable questions?

What is more simple to answer my question why it is OK that Iran is on the ban list and what this step should make the USA safer?
What is more simple question to explain me why a Syrian Christian refugee is such a terror danger not to give a safe harbor out of humanity?

 

Well they have realised how crazy they were including Iraq, including those who already had visas and those who were green card holders. The situation remains that it is on record that Trump contacted Giuliani saying specifically that he wanted him to find a way so that he could make his Muslim Ban legal - hence showing true motivations. It apparently is against the constitution to ban people based on their country of origin - that seems to be the main way it could be stopped and of course although all refugees from Syria were banned before, his intent was to allow non Muslims from those countries to come to the US. He obviously has changed this to try and get over the Muslim Ban charge.

 

Your phrase is 'answer my question', when it fact you're asking three questions, so that means three answers - see what I mean? Sorry but I have nothing more to add.

 

What do you believe is the reason for the travel ban?

 

To allow the areas restricted, to install & implement, a more robust vetting/tracking system..... At least on par with other nations in the regions the select are in, but globally, (If proven successful) possibly.

 

Sure makes sense to me!

 

This is not true.

 

I'm pretty sure it's verbatim from Trump.

 

I haven't listened to your video if it has a secret message I am not sure how you could have a more robust vetting tracking system than they already have - it apparently takes around 3 years until, if still alive, Syrians get a visa and that includes giving them lie detectors and investigating everyone they know and they have already been vetted by the UN before the US even gets started. No, no that is suggesting still it is something to do with terrorism when clearly if that was the case it would be countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia they would be doing this too.

It seems to me to be a mixture of two things - living up to his Muslim Ban campaign promise and possibly also snuggling up to the Saudis against Iran hoping they can get them on side to allow for the expulsion or warehousing of Palestinians for eternity in return for Israel and the Saudis being allies against Iran.

 

Well if it is it is. I was just reporting what someone said on the BBC last night.

 

The video is just my sig.

Big DeadHead, 46 years runnin.

But to quickly to the gist. Gotta drop off soon, & grab some kip.

Until a better Handel is fashioned on THIS century's versions of terrorist activity, the stakes are too high NOT to proceed as stated.

I'm sorry. On this, I'm pretty stuck.

 

So it is a Muslim ban? At least you admit it unlike Trump and many of his worshipers - pity that, if the people of position agree with your analysis, the patently useless ban created to please the sheep is going to be put into the receptacle where it belongs again.

 

But you know that no one from these countries have committed terrorism on US soil and you know people from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia have. Even if you want all Muslims banned, do you not see something a bit fishy going on and that the countries who are least likely to commit the terrorism are the ones who have been chosen hence unlikely to aid to your security at all and indeed much more likely to be a sign of adventuring on behalf of Trump's admin engaging you in more wars and hence more terrorism. If you want to stop terrorism in the US the best way to go about this would be to stop droning people and start acting by International law in the ME.

 

Even-handed and fair? How? The leaked intelligence reports have called it a poor way to prevent terrorism. In what way does this ban accomplish what goal?

 

An excellent decision to pursue a travel ban . All those countries are war ravaged, no way to check who is who, millions of blank passports changed hands etc...etc...All those countries on the list aren't safe, apart from Iran. But that's the way it is. You need to please general Mattis, neocons and Israelis.

 

Bravo Trump. Only idiot can be against such a decision of the American president.
Since in the EU all politicians are idiots (With the exception of several adequate politicians, such as Marin Le Pen), so they attack Trump.
But the biggest idiots, aggressive idiots, in the EU are German politicians. And even among the crazy German politicians, Merkel is the most aggressive idiot. Because she is the reason for the appearance of hordes of savages in the EU.
Although I must admit, there are still adequate politicians in Germany. For example, Sarah Wagenkneht.

 

Many of those millions of blank passports are available for anyone in the world to buy in places like Nigeria. Italy is another place that has recently been found as a place to buy fake passports. Any terrorist could easily get one of those.

 

Phrase???
And these are 2 (two) questions ... sorry for the forgotten "s" behind the word question!
So you have nothing to add that you are not able and willing to answer 2 simple and maybe for you uncomfortable questions which are for you only phrases... OK, I understand