If a sterotype is true is it racist?

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If a sterotype is true is it racist?

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  1. For Topical Use Only

    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    Yes it did:

    A person who believes a particular race is superior to others.

    It's all encompassing. It doesn't say 'superior to others in some ways'.

    A trait, say, blacks are very often the best runners or Germans are adept engineers, is simply an observation and only becomes racist if there's an added condition like 'whites can't run' or 'the French are crap at engineering' which makes it racism/bigotry.
     
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    Can't vote.

    Depends on the stereotype.
     
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    Hang in there Dennis, you can do it.
     
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    No stereotype is true therefore all stereotypes are racist
     
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    Different doesn't mean superior.
     
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    Yeah I agree with the caveat that a stereotype might be true, but there might be insufficient evidence to declare it to be true at the time.

    Nonetheless, a stereotype that through sufficient evidence becomes true is no longer a stereotype but a feature.

    Racism also requires some judgement of superiority, which may not exist for a particular stereotype.
     
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    Yes, stereotypes are racists because they have two channels.
    Monotypes are not.

    :lol:

    Seriously, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. :smile:
     
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    Fair enough, good point.
    But that also is only a stereotype to the racist. Smarter people will explain it as you and know that isn't a true stereotype. So a racist will use many things to justify their racism, yes?
     
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    Someone else said this already, just piggybacking. If the "stereotype" is true, it's not a stereotype and it cannot be racist because it wouldn't be a "belief that someone else is superior", it would just be a fact about a certain race.
     
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    Such light-skinned blonds are genetically superior in surviving on a rain-soaked bog. Blondes are typically viewed as more youthful and healthy and will attract more mates over the brunettes.
     
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    I don't buy into that thinking at all.

    Blacks are better runners and jumpers than everyone else because the science and the competition results prove it. Please look at all the Olympic and World Championship records in these events over the last 40 years. All other races are inferior, no matter how good their environment, training, nutrition or money thrown at them---all fall short almost every time.
     
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    Better means superior.
     
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    Light skinned people actually age the worse because our skin is thinner than black people's skin. Seriously. They have thicker subcutaneous tissues so they remain youthful looking for a longer time.
     
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    Exactly the opposite is true! :cool:
     
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    Remember the ignorance and fear back 500 years ago when scientists tried to debunk the myth that the Earth was flat?

    There is no appreciable difference today with the fear of testing race and intelligence than that ignorance and fear 500 years ago with proving a round Earth the circled the Sun.

    To accurately test the real differences, one would need to take a truly random test of everyone around the world at younger ages. IQ testing using progressive matrices that don't rely on culture, DNA cheek swabs for ethnic profiling, and MRI's for brain structure need to be done.

    The fear and PC backlash is just too great to do them.
     
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    I was saying only certain aspects of people's skin are superior in certain ways.
     
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    Well, I would say that black people have the superior skin. They usually have better complexions, a healthy glow, and thicker tissue on their face which is less prone to wrinkling. They don't usually have freckles or blemishes either. I mean, some of them do but not as often as white skin.
     
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    There are higher numbers of females born blonde than males and retention of blonde hair into adulthood is a sexually selected indicator of fitness in females.4 Caucasian blondes are usually slightly higher in oestrogen than brunettes and are likely to exhibit other infantile sexually selected traits (indicating low levels of testosterone) that are considered desirable by males, for example finer facial features, smaller nose, smaller jaw, pointed chin, narrow shoulders, smooth skin and less body hair, and infantile behaviour such as higher energy levels and playfulness.5
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/jun/04/men-blonde-women-attractive

    Yes there are a few attractive Brunettes like Jacquline Smith and Megan Fox, but science says you're typically less attractive.

    I'd get a bottle of peroxide and see what good things happen.:-D
     
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    I don't seem to have any issues. In fact, I attract a lot more attention than some of my blonde friends. :-D Brunettes tend to be curvier and more interesting and better and more adventurous in bed. :p
     
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    Sexier and more exotic looking too. ;)
     
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    When I went bottle blonde, everyone missed the contrast of my dark hair with my blue eyes. It's one of the features that is striking about me and attracts a lot of attention. I thought I looked rather plain and washed out as a blonde.
     
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    so why do Asian women also look very young even in their 50s and 60s?
     
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    The human skin tone varies from the palest to the darkest. The color stems from the amount and type of skin pigmentation called melanin. There are two types of melanin: eumelanin and pheomelanin. Like many other physical attributes, the amount and type of pigment on our skin is determined by our genes. All our genes work together to create the final product— our skin.

    As reported by thetech.org, scientists have identified a couple of genes that play a role in the skin tone, one of which is melanocortin receptor 1 (MC1R). When MC1R works well, the melanocyte cells (found in the epidermical layer of the skin) transforms pheomelanin into eumelanin, but if MC1R works sluggishly, pheomelanin will be accumulated. In the majority of people with light or pale skin, such as Caucasians, MC1R performs slowly, which is why they have more pheomelanin, resulting in lighter skin.

    Other genes involved in determining the human skin tone are the kit ligand gene (kitlg) and SLC24A5. Scientists have found that East Asian people have brighter skin than the general Asian population due to the version of kitlg. Northern European people of pale skin are also known to have SLC24A5 genes that don’t not work the way they are supposed to. A small portion of Northern Europeans get their skin tone from a sluggish MC1R gene. To sum up, the more eumelanin your skin has, the darker your skin will be. People who have more pheomelanin will have paler skin, usually accompanied by freckles.

    However, although genetics play a big role in determining one’s skin tone, there are still external factors that can cause variations in skin color in various races, one of which is the exposure to sunlight. Sunlight can be damaging due to the UV radiation it contains. UV radiation can destroy folic acid or cause DNA mutation in some skin cells. Sometimes this mutation can even cause skin cancer. This is where dark skin has its advantages.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2016/10/03/do-asians-really-age-more-slowly.html
     
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    I wish I had darker skin. I like how dark skin looks better than white skin. I hate being so white.
     
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    It would be awesome to look tan all year round! :D I'm pretty pasty after the winter and lack of being in the sun, and then being in the sun can damage my light skin, so I even try to avoid too much sun in the summertime.
     

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