THere is something WRONG with the empathy, or lack, of right wingers.

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  1. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is your rude, entitled judgmentality coming out. YOU would have me work to death. AND YOU KNOW IT. Steven HAwking has MANY aides, and costs PLENTY to the UK. BUT, he is a national treasure. IFFFFFFFFFFFFFF it weren't for NATIONALIZED medicine, he likely would not work, or breathe. HE is able to work as they pay huge sums to allow that.
     
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    I'd just like to point out that you're the one who started a judgemental thread, then complain because you're being judged.

    I'll say it again: if your problem is blood thinners, then you should be working.

    If there's something major wrong with you....broken back, a metal bar that went through your skull, etc, then fine. I have no problem chipping in to help you.

    If you don't want to work, but you're perfectly able to do so, then you've earned the derision you've received.

    Only you know if that's true or not.
     
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    No, just cut fraud and abuse. Is that why you're worried?
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since you OBVIOUSLY are a cardiologist, at what Ejection fraction would you declare one disabled? BArring your credentials, you insulting statements about bars thru skulls is the height of ignorance.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am NOT worried, I was just judged disabled, after eight years, by the administrative judge. Unless you are dead, or soon to be, they MAKE you fight, EVEN if fighting shortens your life.
     
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    The Republican Party and the Rise of the "Christian" Sociopath

    The GOP has managed to convince tens of millions of Americans that they’re following the teachings of Jesus Christ – by supporting politicians and policies that aren’t Christ-like at all. Millions of people who honestly believe that Jesus would be a gun-loving, anti-immigration conservative who would believe that a society is best served by giving the rich more money while cutting programs that feed millions of children living in poverty. That he would feel that health care should only be for those who can afford it.

    And it’s an absolute joke for anyone who calls themselves a Christian to follow the GOP’s economic ideologies. They’re entirely predicated on feeding greed while condemning the poor. To them, a company like Walmart is to be looked upon with great admiration…while the full-time Walmart employee who relies on welfare to feed their children because Walmart pays such a lousy wage is to be vilified and condemned.

    https://forwardprogressives.com/republican-party-rise-christian-sociopath/
     
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    I have no idea, of course. I'm not a doctor.

    What I do know is that unless you're bed ridden, you're capable of doing SOMETHING. You could do a desk job, work from home...there are a million things you could do.

    You already admitted that it took you 8 years to get on SSDI. That's a lot of effort to make sure you don't have to go to work.
     
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    and Yemen
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    PURE judgmental ignorance, LIKE I SAID. WE have doctors that are experts, but YOU feel ENTITLED to share your ignorance, as fact.

    Arbeit Macht Frei
    "Arbeit macht frei" is a German phrase meaning "work makes (you) free." The slogan was placed over the entrances to a number of Nazi concentration camps during World War II, including Auschwitz I, where it was made by prisoners with metalwork skills and erected by order of the Nazis in June 1940.


    Since I am a moldmaker, I could make your NEW concentration camp sign. HEll, I could make a mold, which could outfit ALL your new concentration camps. And you don't want to dirty YOUR hands, so I guess you would threaten me into outfitting the camps with all the ovens, and other mechanized bits, as I am a process engineer.
     
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    Finally found a judge to give it to you huh?

    Just as an FYI, I just left a job where we gave a lady her 40 year retirement party. She had MS so bad she couldn't talk, only those of us who had worked there for a while could understand her.

    She was as crooked as a question mark, could barely walk (used a 4 legged walker to get around), but that woman got up every morning, got dressed even though I'm sure it was painful and took her a long time, and went to work every day for 40 years.

    I had more respect for that woman than anyone I've ever met. She thanked me after her party by telling me that I was only one of a handful of people that treated her like a normal human being, which of course she was.

    If she can work, so can most people.
     
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    Somalia has a thugocracy. It is a libertarian society the way feudal Europe was and functions almost as well.
     
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    I have always wondered about this part. I'm not a Christian, but the fact that what one is accustomed to hear about Christian philosophy is definitely not present in the extreme right. Why aren't more Christian denouncing this? Before you wrote this, the only other Christian who expressed this was the Pope. Who publicly excommunicated Trump (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-trump-is-not-christian/). And I know this means nothing to Trump (who is not Catholic), but it should mean a lot to Catholics.

    And I'm left wondering why this is not expressed by more Christians.
     
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    Whoa mule. You gee'd and haw'ed that mule to the left so hard you went into a tight circle. ha ha

    Yet much of what you said is very true about the far right of center. But you know, if one went that far left of center one could write things just as crazy, just as immoral, just as despicable as your exercise here. I hope you do realize that.

    I heard recently that being left or right is genetic. I believe that for genetics seem to determine disposition and the quality of beliefs when it comes to socio/political beliefs. And we never need to cast away, or exterminate either the left or the right, as long as one has a democratic form of gov't. For both will counter balance and keep either extreme from ruling, which would turn into a failed state. Under a dictatorship either one would be hell on earth for the citizens. So all is not good on the left which you seem to think. Madness is generated on both sides in purism. So, you should be thankful that each are counter balanced, by the other extreme, so optimally we end up in the saner middle ground. Of course we run into deep **** when each side is not tempered by the other, and that is what we all should fear.

    One of the memorable right wingnut utterances came a few years ago after the crash of 08, when in a discussion I heard several right wingnuts say, that these unemployed people should get off of their lazy left wing arses and get a job instead of seeking public assistance. At the time, nationally, if you added up the unemployed and then added up the available open jobs, the unemployed exceeded the available jobs something like 5 to 1. So if every available job was taken, there would still be millions left unemployed, with no job for them to take. And yet when this hard fact was pointed out by some astute intellect, it made no difference in the world with these right wingnuts. They acted like this just was not an acceptable reality and by god they would not accept it. Why? Because it showed the stupidity involved in being either totally left or right. The people that can transcend the genetics, by finding integrity and honesty in their life will never be a right wingnut nor a left wingnut. For a concerned, moral person of honestly and integrity is a mixture of what is called right wing principles and left wing principles. Purity is for Nazis and not decent, moral human beings of honesty and integrity.

    So, yes much of what you wrote is dead on accurate, and yet chiding these people does nothing for they wear their purist right wing beliefs like a badge of honor. The same can be said of the left wingnuts. But neither side are really people of honesty and intellectual integrity

    But which side is truly the worse, the most dishonest, the most lacking in morality and decency? And which side is worse in the principles they seem to hold on to? I really don't know, but only know both sides appear to be bat **** crazy in their purist positions and both sides are dishonest, lack integrity and drink from the fountain of hypocrisy whenever engaged in political argumentation. I think both the far extremes, left and right require some degree of sociopathy in order to embrace the extremes. Our trouble is, combined with the dishonesty, lack of integrity, and morality, these extremes these days get sent to DC to represent us. And instead of the left and the right compromising to find some sane middle ground, away from the insanity of extremes, this is not happening on the most important issues that affect our lives. And of course there is the problem of both sides not being left or right, but both being the same beast on some highly important issues, like open borders, and slave labor driven free trade globalization, because sometimes, many times, being the puppets of the elites is more important to them than being left or right.
     
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    One word: Hypocrisy.

    They aren't Christians. It's that simple. They hide beyond their religion as they try to control other people. They rationalize the world away while doing the work of Satan. They are disgusting.
     
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    I worked for years with congestive heart failure, so was yours so bad as to stop you from working, physically? Many older people have this and still work. Must have been more involved?

    From what I hear, you get SSDI faster if you go ahead and get a lawyer specializing in this, given they can speed it up somewhat, for the system is designed to make people give up trying to get it, and many people are turned down a couple times before they get it. Kinda automatic unless you are dying and then they seem to make sure you die before they approve it.
     
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    Sure, we have experts.

    Experts that told you for 8 years you weren't disabled.
     
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    Keep wondering :) It's not JUST about religion it also about Conservatism.

     
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    It stopped me from sleeping for six months. LITERALLY. IT almost killed me EVERY night for months. LITERALLY, It all depends on your plumbing, and your ej fraction. Which is why we employ medical experts. BUT, that don't stop ignorant folks from saying unless you gotz a steel bar exiting both sides of your skull, get to work. WHICH is the subject of this OP.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those AINT experts, THEYZ bureaucrats. They are to stop you from collecting, till you are dead, then the money goes back in the pot. NOT until you get a lawyer, and sue, do you get a REAL HEARING. Due to the backlog, that is over four years now.

    That is why folks are so ignorant. Till you must fight for your very life, you are too busy working to know better.
     
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    Those hypocrites are what Jesus Christ calls stumbling blocks. They make you shy away from good teachings. And Jesus said, better to have a millstone around your neck when you jump in the water, than to be a stumbling block.

    Making Christianity seem mean, and judgmental is the FURTHEST thing from Jesus. And so, those folks will burn hottest. OR freeze, whichever your perspective. Either way, they will NOT partake in the fellowship of the MEEK, whom shall inherit the earth. Nor be allowed to enjoy the source of all things.
     
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    You don't seem to have any problem typing.
     
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    Actually the requirements are quite clear:

    http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/conditions-page-2-43.html

    Maybe they just got tired of your incredible persistence after 8 years. Too bad you didn't put that much effort into finding something constructive that you could do.
     
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    I would work your snowflake ass into the dirt, homey. I am MORE productive than any three or more men. And that is what I ALWAYS prided myself in. Your efforts to insult all those trying to claim disability etc, shows your motives.
     
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    You AGAIN show your ignorance. There are MANY forms of heart disease. You mention but one.
     

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