Religion in the USA

Actually I was at the hospital, not that it's any of your business. I actually have a life, you apparently do not.

 

I admit that watching you self immolate every day is somewhat painful, but a spanking it is not, it's your ass, not mine.

 

The data in the article are directly taken from the Bible so unless you also find that an unaccredited source you are simply dodging again and showing your inability to debate this topic with honesty. You have already stated resurrection to be impossible so I must assume you believe the story irrationally as a miracle which makes debate a pointless venture going forward.

Have A Nice Day

 

The "synopsis" is not from the Bible. The rest of your rant is dishonest BS. Why can't atheists be honest?

Have a nice day.

 

Ironic given the inherent dishonesty of what your are promoting. Give me your MONEY and your SUPPORT now and in return I will only REPAY you after you are dead and buried is what it amounts to.



The ENTIRE bible is riddled with contradictions making it lack credibility. That you are cherry picking one small aspect and PRETENDING that it is NOT equally ridden with fallacies is disingenuous. As any bible scholar will proclaim the resurrection DEPENDS entirely upon the mythology behind the concept of the "prophesized savior" which in turn depends upon the highly edited, altered, modified, etc, etc rest of the bible.

So yes, you are right that it is a huge pile of crap and it INCLUDES the crap about the resurrection all of which is CONTAINED in your bible.

But that is your problem, not mine.

 

Ever notice how theists are the ones casting aspersion while promoting superstitious snake oil?

 

It's ALL bullshit, The entire Bible is largely bullshit and the New Testament entirely so. Honorius collected all the versions then extant and burned all but the versions he approved of in the 300's so the whole thing might as well have been written completely by him and it probably was. The article then is BS on BS and has about as much real credibility as my Aunt Gertrude's emails on the Illuminati Conspiracy but then you probably believe in that too.

NONE of this matters to ANYBODY, really, not even the idiot priests who debate it endlessly. People get all upset about whether Jesus's **** stank and then go out and crap on people in reality (figuratively). This is a major problem in Christianity to my way of thinking. People get all hung on the story and forget the morals it's supposed to teach. Which is a damned shame because all Christianity says is that you should be nice to people.. That's it, just don't be a mean ******* and you'll go to heaven, who can argue with that?

 

Another "expert". In another thread we addressed the issue of whether or not religion and atheism can co-exist and from everything I see in paces like this I say the answer is "NO!"

You wrote this:

"As any bible scholar will proclaim the resurrection DEPENDS entirely upon the mythology behind the concept of the "prophesized savior" which in turn depends upon the highly edited, altered, modified, etc, etc rest of the bible."

How many Bible scholars do you know? None. How many have you read? None. You haven't given any evidence of it that I can see. How can you come to a place like this pretending to be an expert in anything, don't you ever worry that someone might discover you? The answer is no, you are not worried because nobody knows who you are anyway. Just another internet tough guy.

 

What Christianity and Judaism both say is "love God and love your neighbor" but since you (the collective you) would rather argue about the sin of Onan and whatever the Bible says about your favorite sexual sins (for example) you miss the whole point of any of it.

And before you miss the point of THAT, the real issue is that you people would rather argue over minutia, so much so that you will never understand or face the fact of who you are in relation to both God and your neighbor.
For that reason some of you can't even fathom the morals you think the Christian story is trying to tell because it's all about YOU, not God OR your neighbor. And the more time goes by the more self centered, selfish, covetous, and egotistical mankind becomes, and not only that, they are blind to everyone's faults but their own. In fact, many of them, like the ones on this page, like to blame the guy next to them for their own faults.

There was another school shooting yesterday, yet another indication of how sick mankind is becoming, and for some reason YOU think you have all the answers, do you?

 

at your "internet tough guy" PROJECTION!

As a child I was required to memorize bible verses and as a result of that I was awarded a copy of Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan. That was my introduction to religious scholars and ultimately to other religions for comparative studies.

I can understand why this knowledge scares you and you are feebly attempting to disparage it. It is a common practice by those who I have seen termed as "bible bullies". There is a book that describes them.

https://featheredquill.com/bible-bullies-how-fundamentalists-got-the-good-book-so-wrong/

Feel free to rant on but all of your antics are just that and to no avail. The FACTS about the extensive ALTERATIONS in your bible are well documented and no amount of foot stomping hissyfits are going to change that REALITY.

Have a nice day.

 

I have a term for atheists who bloviate about the Bible with a fundamentalist bent, I used to call them "fundamentalist atheists" because they hate fundamentalists but act just like them, then I found out that the term was not original to me, that's how widespread and universal this phenomenon is.

It's too bad you didn't learn anything from "Pilgrim's Progress", you could have at least gotten an idea of what the Bible is trying to tell you.

I too, memorized Bible verses but I had to buy my own copy of Pilgrim's Progress. But I am so sorry that your parents tried to broaden the narrow mind that you demonstrate here. Times is hard, times is hard.

I didn't believe it either, which is why I went to Seminary, I knew there was something they weren't telling me and I wanted to know what it was. I didn't know it at the time but there is a wealth of free public domain literature available that could amount to at least an undergraduate degree, the biggest problem being that it takes some time to get acclimated to the terminology and the principles involved.

But I don't believe you have read any of it, I don't believe you have studied comparative religion. You sound like someone who reads things that will reinforce his grudge against Christianity, which, as far as I can tell, is what internet atheists do. The author of the article you posted has conflated "Republicanism" with "Evangelical Christianity" and it sounds like he doesn't know much about either. Hello? Jerry Falwell is dead, in case you haven't heard, so is Billy Graham. Pat Robertson is a feeble old man and Jim Dobson was never a pastor, he was a psychologist. The "moral majority" whine is so last century.

And that's the problem. This ain't the 1950's anymore, not that you ever saw it in the first place. The fundamentalists from those days I know are now reading The Shack (not that I approve but it does demonstrate how much things have changed) but you and the rest of the fundamentalist atheists evidently think the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and Billy Sunday are still in business.

They're not, get over it.

 

Some theists. Literally for decades I've observed the phenomenon of people seeking to assert their beliefs over others to the point of intolerance of others. It's not just religion (both atheism and theism), but as this forum proves daily, politics. In short, it's not just some theists promoting snake oil.

 

Didn't I say just that? YOU"RE the one arguing over which resurrection story has what Biblical backing

And yes, I have the answer to school shootings or any shootings for that matter. You can't shoot someone with a gun that isn't there.

 

You people need to stop asking me questions if all you're going to do is bitch about the answers. That's my answer, take it or leave it instead of going on and on for page after page.

And no, you can't shoot someone with a gun that's not there, but you can stab them with a knife and run over them with cars, just ask the French and British. It's people that commit crimes, not inanimate objects, and if you ever actually read the Bible you argue about you'd know that man's capacity for evil is only limited by his reach. But go ahead and keep using band-aids to fix bullet holes and complaining about the results.

 

What does that vacuous ranting screed above remind me of again?

Oh yes, now I remember!

“Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
― William Shakespeare, Macbeth

 

Yet another content free post from you, yguy was right, outside of left wing atheist talking points you have nothing to say.

(Note to self: don't waste anymore time on this guy.)

 

That mirror seems to have scared you for some reason!

I wonder what you saw in it?

 

Are you what passes for an intellectual on the left? Great.

 

That putrid level of troll bait says volumes!

 

While some alleged "Bible thumpers" try to come off as Moses coming down the mountain with the Ten Commandments straight from God in hand, most, in my experience, are kindler and gentler about it. They don't force, ridicule nor demean others. Since they truly believe in their faith, they try to walk in the footsteps of Jesus by using kindness to persuade others to love God.

Most atheists seem to be the flip-side of Bible Thumpers; each trying to jam their beliefs down the throats of others. Fewer agnostics take this approach. Sure, they'll speak up, but most recognize that it's a matter of faith and no amount of logic will dissuade either atheists or theists.

 

Some people have an objection to being replied to in the same tone they use with others in places like this. For them, I have thought in the past that addressing them in the same form and fashion they address me in will at least cause them to recognize themselves (indeed, I have even tried repeating their very own words right back to them) but you can't shame them because they have no shame.

 

A flawed idea since, to third party observers, it makes you no different than them.

 

Not to the smart ones, they can see what I am doing, but then again, there aren't too many Nobel Laureates here.

 

You've often accused me various power positions; moderator, God, etc. As your post above supports, I think you are simply projecting what you are doing onto others. You just posted that anyone who can't tell the difference between your "joking" and the identical posts of others are stupid ("not to the smart ones") then you double down on that remark by declaring there "aren't too many Nobel Laureates here", another veiled insult to the intelligence of posters on this forum. Posters other than yourself, of course, since you hold yourself in very high esteem over the majority of this forum's posters. You'd be wise to reflect upon why you feel so superior to most of God's creations.

 

There is nothing veiled about it, some of them are simply willfully ignorant, which is the worst kind of ignorance. It's one thing to not be capable of understanding, it's quite another to refuse to understand in favor of some counterproductive agenda, as you so often exhibit here yourself. You still refuse to accept that your criticisms of me are only projections of your own insecurity even as you accuse me of projecting. You have done this from your first post, and I am not the only one who has seen it. You do it on other forums, as I have already pointed out.

This is going to have to be my final word on the subject, you are just going in circles. If you have a legitimate question that doesn't have to do with insulting me feel free to ask.