The Progressive Agenda means the Right to Earn a Living Wage for All Americans.

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  1. crank

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    Repeated, in the hopes of obtaining an answer.
     
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    If you really believed that, you'd be on the phone to your municipal or state government telling them you've came up with a brilliant idea that will solve poverty. If you guys could take just one of your drug-infested poo holes of a city and get rid of all poverty, you'd show the rest of us how things work.

    Why haven't you done that yet?
     
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    Mr. Avenati is an attorney. He could do it and take a tax deduction for the expense.

    I still need a petty cash fund, for that purpose.
     
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    Nice liberal view. But not correct. Just because some one putstheir own views in print, does not make them right or wrong, just opinions that are meaningless. Capitolism has created the greatest country on earth, the USA of the 1950s/60s. As we started to seriously take care of the losers in life starting in the 1970s, our standard of living has been declining. The more socialist we become, the worse our economy and standing in the world become.
     
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    Again I ask. Why $15 an hour. Surly $500 an hour would be Nirvana, and a $1000 and hour ecstasy. Why $10,000 an hour for being non productive and a drag on society would fix EVERYTHING. YOu cannot have too much of a good thing, right?
    And where is that RIGHT to have a living wage come from. I scoured the constitution and cannot find it. Please help me out where it comes from????
     
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    I have all those things, how is it I have them and others don't? Pure laziness and lack of fortitude and grit seems to be the answer. How many people do you personally support PERSONALLY that are not related to you, do you do that for. Stop talking the talk and start walking the walk! It is easy to give other people's things away I guess is how you see life.
     
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    just right wing fake news?
     
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    social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour, by comparison.

    any more diversions?
     
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    haven't you listened to the news lately? some people are getting fired one day before their vestment in retirement benefits.
     
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    I've asked the same question myself since that seems like the logic used to push for raising the minimum wage. It's never answered because you have to get into a communist mindset to understand how they think. To a communist, they are like children living at home, and daddy should give them an allowance so they can have some pocket money to hang out with their friends at the mall.

    So to them, this is like asking daddy to raise their allowance from 10 dollars a week to 1,000 dollars a week. Even they know that daddy doesn't make that kind of money, so it's ridiculous to even ask. But maybe 15 a week is manageable. After all, comic books and soda pop have risen in price since allowances started being distributed, so it's only fair to factor that into the allowance.
     
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    Are we not the greatest country on the planet, and are we not capitalist and how we created it capitalism? Checkmate!
     
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    You passed the question. why not $500 an hour minimum wage. If $15 is good, more is better. Why stop at $15.00?
     
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    right wingers don't know what they are talking about. just gossip and fake news is all they seem to know.

    We have a mixed-market economy; it was FDR's brand of socialism that brought the US into the first world.
     
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    social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour, by comparison.

    it is rational to expect labor to volunteer to work for fifteen dollars an hour.
     
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    There is no natural rate of unemployment under true capitalism; only underpayment.
     
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    So? But the conventional retirement is gone to the wayside. You make your own with your own 401K. Your choice to save for the future. Mine, I put 10% of my wages for 20 years. Yes, we didn't take fancy vacations, yes, I did NOT buy new cars, fancy homes etc. Yes, I didn't do drugs, alcohol, other selfish things. I now am a 401K millionaire. And a lot of guys are worked with are dead broke because they did do all that instead of save.
    Lets see if I can find tears and pity for them...………………………………….nope, nothing.

    I just don't suffer fools very well.
     
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    Thanks for a perfect example of not really understanding why that question was asked. See, we look at things so completely different that your answer might as well have been typed in klingonese.

    It makes no sense to the conservative mindset. You didn't tie the cost of social services to the need to raise the minimum wage. You just threw that out there thinking that we would just implicitly understand that naturally since the price of social services is 14 an hour (btw: wut?) then light bulbs would dimly flicker over the head of every conservative who read that.
     
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    How come it didn't happen to me? YOu want slavery with your underpayment, you are allowed to have an opportunity for success, but you are not guaranteed it. No one is forcing them to work for minimum wage, but you still do not answer, if $15 an hour is good, why not $500 an hour, it is even better. Right?

    All you want is a free lunch.
     
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    Beats starving and homelessness.
     
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    So again, how do you propose getting all the progressive drones that dont work to go to work??????????????
     
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    Your view only works in right wing fantasy. Hoover proved that.
     
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    no reason to complain about the cost of social services, right wingers; if you won't let the Poor earn enough to not need social services, and pay more in taxes and create more in demand.
     
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    pre-wwii economic models for the right wing?

    how, Obsolete.
     
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    There is no unemployment under voluntary capitalism, only UnderPayment.
     
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    But how did I get here?? I was underpaid sooo badly.
     

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