Fad Or The Future? Robot-Made Burgers Wow The Crowds In San Francisco

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    THE ROBOTS ARE COMING!! THE ROBOTS ARE COMING!!​

    No $15 an hour, no health benefits, no 401(k)'s, no worker's comp insurance payments, no taking a chance on getting caught hiring illegals because they work cheap, taking citizens jobs. An emerging market for folks with tech degree's like me to specialize in repair, maintaining and adjusting these new workers for peak performance and quality.

    The real question here is what are we going to do with all the immigrants, both legal and illegal once the fast food jobs dry up.....and it's coming? Robots that make made to order pizza's, burgers and soon self driving taxi's. What's next Construction robots? Who knows? One thing's for sure there will be a whole lot of uneducated people that will have no means to support themselves, do we give the endless welfare, food stamps and section 8 housing?

    What say you?
     
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    Great One
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    If a $15 an hour minimum wage is the future then automation is the future.
     
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    The future is now.

    A month ago I stopped at the McDonald's in Springfield, VT. Order kiosks and just one cashier. Order and pay at the Kiosks, cash payers take their reciept to the only cashier.

    Looks to me like it's cut staffing by 1/3.
     
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    This will come sooner than you think, no matter what the minimum wage is. And you will mindlessly celebrate it as "free market - good", while at the same time you celebrate anti-free market tariffs. Go figure.
     
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    When they're crawling around in agonising hunger on the street I'll be there to give them a hammer so they can end it.

    That's what I call a handout
     
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    If people have no jobs or incomes who will buy the stuff that the robots make? It's a fool's paradise.
     
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    That is the campaign promise democrats intend to make to legal and illegal voters

    And they wont even care if the robots are made in china
     
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    What’s next? How about AI that can program robots on their own and maintenance robots that can maintain other robots that put people like you out of a job?

    Will you be cheering then?
     
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    For sure we must build the wall and deport most of the illegal aliens already here

    Merit based immigration reform must be adopted also

    No more shoeless somalis or otherts who cannot contribute
     
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    We don't have illegal or legals here working in our fast food. So, the displacement will be those americans who no longer work in the manufacturing sector, driven to the service sector and those working poor wages, (we don't pay anything but barely above min. wage here and it most of the South).

    One can expect continued displacement, left unemployed, by advancing robotics and AI, in all economic sectors, except repair and maintaining the robotics. And finding living wage jobs that robots cannot do is a fairy tale. At least in sufficient numbers.

    What happens when you remove the income producing factor from the equation of capitalism? Not rocket science what happens. It implodes. So, the economic model that once provided money to buy resources for a standard of living is gone with the wind. What does this create? ha ha

    The drive over a long period to remove labor costs, human labor from an economy, in order to max profits is no different from a lethal cancer upon an organism. It destroys the organism, kills it. And people are still trying to wiggle out of common sense. Oh, they say what happened to the farming economy supporting humans when the industrial revolution arrived? Except what is being totally ignored is that the industrial revolution provided the jobs for displaced farmers. What does it today? That sooner of later AI or robots cannot do better and cheaper? And the lemmings continue to rush over the precipice, oblivious to their fate.

    Face it, our future is some kind of socialism. Capitalism, and its demand to max out profits for the owner class, destroys itself, becoming a cancer upon this thing we call capitalism. If you disagree, give me what economic sectors will replace the service sector and manufacturing. Be specific. Of course, you do not know. And so the position must be assumed, that something will, for these things always work out! Except things do not always work out for this is nothing magical that will provide jobs for the huge number of displaced workers. Unless you believe in rainbows and unicorns. I don't.
     
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    When I went to McDonald's in San Francisco, the order and payment process was the same.

     
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    Talk about "Chef" automation!

     
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    Some amount of IT training will need to become part of the high school curriculum, required for graduation. Retraining should be inexpensive and available at community colleges for adults who never received it to learn basic automation, operations and programming skills in the future, for financial and tecnological advancement individually and nationally.

     
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    No bugs in my burger
     
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    Indeed. These fools think that automation is just about burger flippers and gloat that the undeserving poor will be thrown under the bus.
    They already have robots doing surgery.
    They need to uncork their heads from their asses and start to think about automation without their partisan stupidity because it’s the future and will affect everyone one way or another.
     
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    Every story like this puts us one step closer to universal basic income.
     
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    So hamburgers are being made by automation. Big deal. Remember how you had to talk to a bank teller before there were ATMs? What about those Quick Photo kiosks where you had to drop off your film to have your pictures developed? Technology will always take over jobs that people do, and it has nothing to do with how much those people have been paid.
     
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    But it does accelerate the process. European fast food places replaced many of their cashiers years ago with ordering kiosks precisely because of pay. Why do you think all those self serve check out lanes popped up all over the nation so quickly? Stores save hundreds of thousands of dollars every year on those things.
     
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    this was forseen at least 10 yrs ago and you are correct it has nothing to do with minimum wage. all industries are automating.
     
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    I can't wait. Long over due.
     
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    Banks still have tellers in every window.
    How many jobs seriously were lost from photo kiosks?

    I don't think your opinion is wrong but I think we might be missing the full impact. McDonald's alone has 1.9 million employees.
    My guess is the back end would be automated first and will happen once it is both effective quality and cost wise across all major chains.

    The impact of automation and how to get the majority of Americans ahead of it is a seriously daunting challenge. Doable.

    Im not thinking it's bad, our economy now under this President is creating jobs in other sectors at a much higher rate than the previous 8 years
     
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    They save lots of money. No surprise there. Cotton used to be picked by hand, but now we have huge cotton pickers/balers that can do the work of lots of hand pickers in a fraction of the time. You ever see any of those YouTube videos of how robots have taken over assembly lines that had dozens of workers? In a few years, big trucks will be driving themselves, putting thousands of truckers out of work. Automation has and will always take over more work done by people. It has little to do with whether those workers make a living wage or not.
     
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    Sure, banks have tellers, but not as many as they once had. Probably hundreds of thousands of ATM transactions every day, or at least every week that were once done by tellers. Fewer in person transactions means fewer tellers needed to handle those transactions. All the workers at those kiosks lost their jobs. With self checkout at Walmart, they have fewer cashiers per customer. It's the wave of the future, and the present. It has very little to do with whether those workers made a living wage. A worker with a full time job shouldn't be in poverty.
     
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    There will always be new challenges to solve, and we need to figure out how to live and grow as a species and make a living once we no longer need menial labor done and most work is automated.
     

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