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Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Professor Peabody, Aug 27, 2018.

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  1. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    We could bat this ball all day, but the bottom line is, yes indeed, according to what you have put forth, it is based on an increased dependency on the government, and additional taxes to support it.

    Education/training - provided by the government
    UBI or assistance - provided by the government

    As I previously stated, anyone who has even a small clue, realizes that their job may be in peril, would start preparing to change their employment. The government doesn't have to get involved.

    As I also previously stated (it may not have been to you specifically) since the 'Rich" have the most influence with the government (the best that money can buy!) I highly doubt that they would permit themselves to be taxed more to support the UBI.
     
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  2. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    Where did I say anything about a UBI?? (I think you may be mixing me up with another poster)

    On Education, yeah the government provides it. Not sure how that's a huge problem. If someone in the private sector wants to set up some sort of education/training program of their own though, then I think that's good too, not everything needs to be provided by the government. But if the private sector collectively doesn't provide education/training for everyone who needs it (as opposed to just a select few) then I do think it makes sense for government to pick up the slack.

    BTW, so on hiring workers for infrastructure etc. and or pushing for/supporting more worker-owned corps/employee ownership of corporate stock, assuming that people aren't mandated to take those jobs, does that mean you'd be OK with those ideas? And if not, why not, and what alternatives would you suggest for making sure we don't end up with record masses of poor unemployed folk? We do have a whole list of different suggestions (please note that not all of them are mine).

    Yes, individually we should be preparing. We should also be preparing as a country. Especially since individual effort may not be enough if systemic issues get in the way (such as 50% of all the current jobs being automated or something). We need to make sure that for those who lose their jobs, that sufficient alternative opportunities exist, and that they are able to get the education and skills necessary to fill those opportunities.

    It should if the private sector isn't able to handle things.

    Again, I'm not the one suggesting a UBI (I prefer people to work for their pay).
    Also, it should be noted that we do still live in a democracy (at least for the time-being)...

    -Meta
     
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  3. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    So what...you can't move forward if you do not change! Win some...lose some...it's always about guessing jobs are lost when never is there a post which talks about all the jobs gained? None of the items you mention would happen if labor had not become a problem. The items you mention, plus others, are simply some of the options business has to deal with labor and quality and technology issues. And give technology some credit for job loss...within 10 feet from where I am sitting right now I can list 100 items that can't be produced by manual labor...starting with our computers and phones and all electronics. It's called progress...
     
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