No police report, then? Christine Blasey Ford will not pursue her allegations any further

So you're not going to answer?

 

I would recommend against Impeaching Kavanaugh.

Even if the Dems presented an airtight case (with incontrovertible evidence), there is no way that they could get enough GOP Senators to vote for conviction/removal.

At this point, the GOP Senate would stick with him even if he was Jack the Ripper.

 

Actually with this Confirmation.....Susan Collins saved the Women's Movement.



Susan Collins just saved the women’s movement and its progress on rape prosecutions.....


The fight over Justice Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation exposed fatal flaws in the “Believe the Victim” approach to sexual assault.

That approach is spreading rapidly through the country and is being actively promoted as the basis for deciding campus misconduct complaints as well as criminal cases. As interpreted by too many political advocates, the command to “Believe the Victim” tramples the principles of fairness, justice, and due process which have long inspired the feminist effort to reform rape law and have carried that effort to important victories over more than half a century.

This week, we all saw it in action. Demands to “Believe the Victim” thrust the U.S. Senate, charged with offering advice and consent on a Supreme Court nominee, into the impossible position of deciding fiercely disputed 36-year-old allegations of violent sexual crimes. Simultaneously, senators were told that it would be “woman-hating” to question, or even seriously consider, the obvious gaps of memory, completeness, and logic raised by those making the allegations.

As painfully demonstrated by the chaos it produced during the Kavanaugh confirmation process, the “Believe the Victim” mantra flatly contradicts the most fundamental principles of justice, in any public setting whether criminal, civil, or political. It does this in at least three ways, all of them flawed as matters of history, law, and basic fairness.

First, “Believe the Victim” advocates have argued not only that allegations of sexual assault need no corroboration, but that to seek such corroboration is to restore the rape laws of the bad old days, before the nationwide reforms of the 1970s and 1980s. As a matter both of history and practice, their argument is dead wrong.....snip~

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ovement-and-its-progress-on-rape-prosecutions

 

July 1982.

A dark & stormy night in Bethesda Maryland.

A teenage boy possibly grabs a teenage girl at party where teens were drinking.

Something maybe bad almost happens.

Girl wastes no time reporting the incident.

36 years later.

To the police?

No - that would be crazy!

To the DEMOCRATS!!!

Or maybe is was June or August.

In 1983.

And possibly a full moon & a clear night.

In Chevy Chase or Rockville or Silver Spring or the District.

But no matter!!!

Brett Kavanaugh is a manster!!!!!!!!!

A MANSTER I say!!!!!!

 

The poor innocent, equal to men women have no idea that hard drinking and sex take place at frat parties.

The regret of ****ing a dumb ass frat boy, in a self induced drunken state, is not rape

 

Lacks critical thinking then....!

 

We've arrived in the twilight zone.
Asserting that you are innocent of an allegation, is now making an allegation

 

I agree.

But Dem fundraising organs will make millions pimping for cash to support the effort, so shhhhhhhhhh.

 

Over a Mil now.....plus a Future Book Deal.

That's if she can get past the lies. Her witnesses, and Kavanaugh.

 

I thought your battle cry was...

...straw man...!

 

Yep, and we cannot allow the Believe the Victim movement.....to dictate anything about Sexual Assault, Rape, or any other Heinous Sexual crimes. Nor should we ever allow them to influence the World of Politics.




In addition, some in the “Believe the Victim” movement would restrict the relevance of the presumption of innocence — the idea that a person charged with wrongdoing is “innocent until proven guilty” — to criminal adjudications only. This gets the truth exactly backwards.

To be sure, the presumption of innocence finds one important expression in the criminal setting. But its basic idea, that the party who accuses must bear the burden of proving the charge, is rooted not in law but in morality. It is exceptionally difficult to prove a negative. And so, as a matter of basic fairness and decency, we require the person who accuses to prove their case against the accused.

Both the case law and the scholarship in this area instantiate key moral principles: that it is unfair to put someone to the task of proving their innocence upon a mere allegation; that this rule applies not only to criminal but also to civil proceedings (albeit under different burdens of proof); and that the resulting presumption should apply in direct proportion to the seriousness of the charges and the harm to the accused of an erroneous decision. That is to say, the graver the allegations and possible harm, the more heavily we should weigh the presumption of innocence and lay the burden of proof upon the accuser.

Finally, and perhaps unintentionally, “Believe the Victim” advocates have pursued their mantra with a single-mindedness which seems unwilling to consider the very real costs to women and sexual assault survivors that could result from their efforts. By inveighing against those who seek to enhance the clarity, completeness, and coherence of sexual assault allegations through normal evidentiary processes, they run the risk of reviving and strengthening some of the very malignant stereotypes about women — that women are too weak to withstand the rigors of public debate and disagreement; that women are ruled by their emotions rather than by reason; and that women cannot be trusted with power because they are unable to think independently or to give objective fairness its due.

The stereotypes that these activists are reviving are the same ones which for so long sustained the special rules that burdened rape prosecutions in our criminal law. Already, in some public commentary about the Kavanaugh confirmation, these invidious stereotypes are raising their ugly heads. It is not too much to ask that such costs be openly considered and discussed before the “Believe the Victim” movement claims to be acting in the name of all women.

In her speech about the Kavanaugh nomination, Sen. Susan Collins stood up for the values of fairness, justice, and due process for which feminist and rape law reformers have fought so hard. Many women agree with those values and with her. …..snip~

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ovement-and-its-progress-on-rape-prosecutions

 

He fancies himself a "critical thinker", oddly something usually ascribed to you by others, not self ascribed.

 

dems are democratic socialists. I'm sure there are some who think they are the traditional dems, but they have been gone for decades.

 

Congratulations!

 

Funny how her life and that of her family was threatened, before WAPO or Feinstein released anything about what she had to say.

In San Francisco that Major Bastion of Right leaning people living there.

 

The fact that her bestest Friend who stated she had never been to a gathering or party with Ford or without, and Kavanaugh being there. EVER!

That fact.....along with why Ford's Attorneys didn't want Keyser to testify before the Senate.

Start there with that fact. That makes most of the left look goofy with what they are saying.

 

LMAO, but didn't come out of her double entrance way of the house she bought that had an Office with a Separate Door from the House Door.

When Kavanaugh was going to be put on the 2nd Most Powerful Court in the Country?

Psst…..I got this bridge for sale. Dirt Cheap, due to needing a paint job. Just sayin.

 

What about him?

 

It would

You lost. The best man won. Move on.

 

I am moving on if you would stop flapping.

 

She knew from the experience of others, obviously.

 

Not really, but he is pandering to Trump for sure.

 

The very idea that someone's 35+ year old "accusation" would be Proof enough for the left is absurd. She can't remember when it happened, she can't remember where it happened or even how she got home. As an Armored Truck driver/messenger I walked into a bank in New Haven Connecticut making a delivery in 1981. The only customer in the bank was wearing a brown trench coat standing at the table where he was filling out a deposit/withdrawal slip. He was sweating profusely, I could see the sweat on his shaved head (not to popular in the early 1980's) this was odd as it was December and only 7 degrees outside. As I passed him I flipped around and started dragging the hand cart instead of pushing it as not to turn my back on him. Inside the vault I told the head vault teller she was about to be robbed. She laughed at me and told me I was paranoid. Making my delivery, I received 3 small bags of loose coins and departed, again never turning my back on him. As I opened the rear door of the truck and tossed the first small bag of coins in, I heard two shotgun blasts from inside the bank, he blew two holes in the ceiling to get their attention. I quickly threw the last two bags of coins in with the hand cart and went in the same door screaming at my partner driving to "Go GO!" I remember every detail of that traumatic day (it's not the only one, there are 6 in total), when, where I can even tell you it was just before noon and what street it was on, just outside the Yale Campus. Those memories and the others are seared into my memory like most traumatic memories are. You all need to pardon me if I doubt the veracity of her story, but if what she said happened, really happened she'd never be able to get the entirety out of her head. Ask any wounded vet if they can forget the firefight they were wounded in. That's the problem, they can't forget

 

Looks like you had to try and get the last "flap" in

 

What I heard the man say is that he is pissed, and is going to travel to campaign for some of his colleagues, this being naturally against other of his colleagues, and that he is quite secure in SC. Who could have imagined this six weeks ago?

It's time for other Republican senators to take the gloves off like this.