Italy Confronts EU, Works with Trump and China

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  1. Tim15856

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    Would probably sell more if their cars weren't so damn ugly.
     
  2. Jazz

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    O.k., I'll give it another try!

    The Germans were rejoicing when Hitler came and lifted their defeated spirit. He got them to believe in themselves and to realize that only they themselves could free themselves through honesty and hard work. And they were enthusiastic about a new beginning... a beginning where the common workers were honored and recognized for their hard and tireless labor. He, Hitler, promised them each a VW for only 1000 German Marks, a nice roomy house on their own large lot for only 10 000 Marks. They all worked and saved and many already got a car and a house.
    Very noble of you, Jeannette! But you just don't get it, do you?
    His Volk enamored him, they believed in him, they trusted him to the last. I believe Hitler himself was still hoping in 1945 to get the Atom bomb ready and dropped. They were that close.
    When the Americans fell into Germany they asked every Hans and Franz, where is the Wunderwaffe? As if we ordinary people would know. But over the radio the Reichs-chancellor would say, "Wien wird wieder deutsch und Berlin bleibt deutsch!" Yes, Berlin will remain German. And the people believed him, because any moment we would use this Wonder Weapon and win the war. Therefore, everybody, old and young, had to help stop the enemies.
    Now, years after the war we read that they had the bomb almost ready, but decided to ship it via u-boat to Japan from the harbor city of Kiel. They managed to get as far as the Canadian coast, when they realized they wouldn't make it to Japan and debated what to do... give the cargo with all the plans included to the Canadian authorities or rather to the US?

    If you want to cry for the German youth, then go to the White House and demand justice for the 1.7 million German POWs, including teenagers, that the Americans starved to death on the Rhine Meadows for no other reason than revenge.
    If you want to cry some more set the record straight about the nightly bombings of German cities full of women, children and old and crippled folks.
    Cry for all the children your government has killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia etc.
    Cry for the Palestinian children who get murdered by Israel, a buddy of your country and you do nothing to stop it!
    AND... cry for your own young soldiers who commit suicide daily!!
    No, you want to pick on Hitler, because that is the fashion and it nicely hides your tortures and atrocities against much weaker nations.
    You think the Germans are stupid and can't see?
    Thanks to the internet and many brave and daring souls who have posted some truth about WWI and WWII, we slowly dare to look up and look you in the eye.
     
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    If you call that "ugly", then you don't possess a designer's point of view.

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    Alfa Romeo is also theirs.

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    Italians have the reputation to be the best designers, so a statement like yours is nothing but subjectivity.

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    Huh?
     
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    Who are you? Italian?
     
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    Are you sure there was a holocaust?
     
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    You mentioned Cold Steel. I thought of their medieval weapon offerings.
     
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    Are you sure there was a Roman Empire?
     
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    A very illogical position. Tariffs don't correct trade deficits. They protect domestic businesses or, in the case of Trump's tariffs, they work toward evening the playing field.

    Americans buy imports because we have spent decades sending our manufacturing and wealth abroad. If tariffs are bad, then they are bad for everyone. Perhaps some countries will reduce tariffs to motivate the U.S. to do the same. THAT is what this is all about.
     
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    They do help correct trade deficits.
    They do a number of things but acting as correctional influences on trade deficits is very definitely one of them.

    Essentially if foreign goods cost more, the incentive is raised to buy domestic (or not to buy them at all)..
    And also to manufacture domestically.

    Lefty is going to tell you that if it isn't a magic wand solution.... that it doesn't work.
    That all it takes to end the trade deficit is to declare a policy and it is done. The next day. Paradise ensues. He says it is reasonable to expect that of you.
    But no one ever listens to lefty on economics mate.
    That's not his subject and he's not honest with money.
    His game is theft. Not wealth creation. There will be no honesty from the left. It works against them.
     
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    They don't get it at all. They want to undermine the sole peaceful means we have to putting pressure on Putin's regime. Another day, another information warfare assault on an EU member state, and authoritarian bootlickers lick it right up.
     
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    I believe so. A lot of Roman stuff was found in Bulgaria. In Varna we even have the Roman Thermaes.
     
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    That is one difference - the Romans have left behind a good amount of tangible evidence. People can't so easily see the legacy of the Holocaust first-hand. They can visit some of the old camps that have been preserved, see photographs and other representations of what once was, but it's not like they can see the pogroms, the ghettos, the loaded trains, the pits of bodies for themselves.

    The Holocaust is more like the Apollo missions in that regard. Without visiting the lunar surface, there isn't much tangible available that can serve as irrefutable evidence, and so we have jerks and nuts who deny that history out of some strange need to attack the US government.
     
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    China is dependent on European demand. Without it they sink. The communist party is making up numbers in this regard to prevent at least the remaining demand from serious shrinkage. Therefore they came up with B&RI. Not just to make transport of goods easier but to reach the demand at its home.

    Trump takes measures to distance US from European allies. This encourages China to further influence in Europe and anywhere such withdrawal is considered.
    US can very well be the main supplier to EU after Germany but the design was shifted with the 2008 crisis. Italy sort of fragile and corrupt EU economies faced harsh austerities that shrank their productivities and so made them more dependent on German supply. Germany could supply in quality because its economy has always been the strongest in Europe for many decades and they have no corruption that is comparable to that of the PIGS. Germany made this dependency of the PIGS even more practical by enforcing conditional loans on to them. So the situation in time has shaped as a radical decline on Chinese demand. This also meant that the fragile economies of the EU to have lost the only alternative to Germany - given the US withdrawal in process since 2011: Chinese goods.
    Up to this point I tried to picture the main theme. We sure can develop this theme into some probabilistic prediction trees under particular hypothesis to come up with certain scenarios.
     
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    Bulgaria is home to some extremely smart and very determined people...
    A loveable country...
     
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    Close!!
     
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    You have proven his point

    He said “better than your Africa” and you want to use Feminist Silencing Tactics to try to get the mods to erase his point. 2018 Feminism 101... actually more like 2016, because no one cares about this tripe anymore.

    Again, he said “better than your Africa”, and your trying to call him racist.

    Get out of here with this clap trap argument, it means nothing and no body cares about the random things you “think” are offensive.

    Likewise, Jazz just commented on “European breeders” which compared to the above statement is far more offensevily put.

    If you want to debate, debate, don’t try to cry like a girl and get others to shut your opponent up. It’s truly pathetic and reminds of of someone sniveling on the ground looking for help.

    Then you double down on stupidity, using an insanely progressive paper like The Gaurdian and try to parrot how evil Italy is, of course now that they are not full globalists like you want.

    Italy - 1.4
    Germany - 1.5
    Austria - 1.5
    Bulgaria 1.5
    South Korea - 1.2
    USA - 1.8
    Russia - 1.6
    Norway - 1.6
    France - 1.9
    Spain - 1.3
    Poland - 1.3
    Greece - 1.3
    Portugal - 1.3
    Switzerland - 1.5
    Japan - 1.4
    China - 1.6
    Belgium - 1.7

    So as you can see, you are spinning lies propagated to you from a lying piece of news. Furthermore, your defense of blacks (jazz) and feminism which you continuously show, pushes your agenda if so called “intersectionality” which has been proven to be completely based on lies which less and less people believe as we go.
     
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    To protect your business with tariffs is being against free trade.
     
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    I did not report his racism. I have been speaking with our National Socialist. I reported him for responding to information with abuse. You however clearly have a guilty conscience and are afraid of being reported. The other thread where his most overt racism was displayed was deleted by the mods yesterday. Do you want to be reported for your abuse too.
     
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    Thank you, sir! That means a lot.
     
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    Many Jews died but most of them were good actors filmed by American filmmakers.
     
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    Close? Moscow is this way :arrow:
     
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    Oh, my pleasure.
    My papa is from Bulgarica, Kadmonia. Where from are you?
     
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