Italy Confronts EU, Works with Trump and China

Everybody exploits China for the cheap labour. Once nobody needs cheap parts and labour, Chinese industry becomes useless like the Borat's condom.

 

A capitalistic world without cheap parts and cheap labor.
lol

 

Corrupt elites? Who the heck do you think is ruling China? And for that matter... who the heck do you think is ruling the USA?

I would think that if China is involved in any project... it is only for some self interested reason. The USA at least makes the pretense of trying to help via foriegn aid. China... they don’t even pretend

 

Looking at the Chinese economy.... they don’t look so very exploited.

 

Maybe the Russians will teach us how to hack computer networks and supposedly secure systems???

 

Correct - no idea! That's why I come here to the forum to learn!

 

Oh, USA is easy... they are ruled by the Zionist bankers!
China at least doesn't first destroy a nation and then rob its resources... they do things legitimate, like "I fix your infrastructure and you give me some oil."
Of course, business is a two-way street!
Anything else you want to complain about?

 

And this is why we should look to America first. Whether we deserve it or not, everyone tries to kick the king off the hill. Many want to be #1 and that means knocking down whoever is #1 at that moment.

 

You are absolutely right! I have at times wondered, what would it be like if the USA got kicked off their throne? Who would then take over the policing? Let's say, Russia would. How would Russia treat us? Would they retaliate. It's only too human to take revenge. Would they pamper Israel like the US does? I can easily imagine an alliance with Israel, but Israel would have to lay off Iran and Syria. Not sure how that would work. I think they would rather challenge Russia for the throne! End of story!
China, perhaps, would have an easier time taking over the world because Chinese people are already everywhere, and they are a very industrious, ambitious and hard-working people, almost like the Germans.

Here is something to read and ponder about:

Decline and fall of the American empire
The economic powerhouse of the 20th century emerged stronger from the Depression. But faced with cultural decay, structural weaknesses and reliance on finance, can the US do it again?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2011/jun/06/us-economy-decline-recovery-challenges

 

What do you have against the Germans? Germans produce quality.

 

Yes, that's all that counts! I could also say, it worked well for the Germans under Hitler, yet, the Americans and their allies couldn't stand him.

 

If Italy was smart it would cut ties with the United States, E.U. , and China otherwise it's trading one foreign master for another which will lead to the same outcome.

 

No, why not ride the wave of the beginners joy? They can quit later, if it doesn't suit them. Italy is so small and insignificant in the big politics, I wish them success and some progress for themselves.

 

Italy is flirting with large nations or organizations that are like wolves sharpening knives that are plotting the best course of carving it up for supper. [Much as they do with the rest of the world as well.]

If they were smart they would find a better course for their national independence.

 

From what I remember, they already didn't do too well aligning themselves with Hitler. I think the Germans were quite fed up with them. If the Chinese feel they can use them, why not? BUT... if you have a better suggestion, say so. I can't think of any other fantastic way to benefit them. And who knows for sure if the Chinese will abuse them. One has to simply try and find out the hard way. That's how it goes with all of us in life... we don't know what will happen tomorrow!
I now have to report for my Matratzenabhorchdienst!

 

Germans in general are pretty asleep. They also don't pay for anything, just save money all their life like some Scrudges. They're welfare accepters and dindu lovers. Germans are more Liberal than an American dindu.

Quality can be seen in Italy too. FIAT Corporation is the second biggest car manufacturer in the world. Or the first. I don't remember. They make Ferrari! And Maserati.

Berreta. Oldest gun manufacturer.

So why would I need German quality? American products are best. Every single one of them.

Logitech, Cold Steel, Spyderco, Benchmade, Dell, Busse Combat, Nike, Intel, AMD. I can go like that forever.

Philips, Netherlands too.

Victorinox, Switzerland.

You have a ton of good brands.

 

I would, if I could, respond to your excellent post, but... I am an ignorant little animal and have no idea of what you are speaking. I'll be back tomorrow, and then you can tell me what a "dindu" is.

 

It's a good dindu.

 

<Rule 3> The worker in China working in a factory gets paid the equivalent of $1 per day. <Rule 3>

 

And without dindus.

 

All I can say is Italy needs to be cautious because with friends like those, who needs enemies?

 

So foreign affairs are a popularity contest? The U.S. went to war with Hitler to support the good guys, not because they didn't like him. The purpose of government is two fold. Firstly it protects the peace and safety of the citizens. Secondly it provides an environment in which the citizens can achieve their goals. A lot of governments fail at this. Three cheers for those that succeed. Lots of things count. But most of them are not the role government. These are the only two that count within the purview of government.

 

The US went to war with Hitler because he declared war on them and started killing them.

 

Not at all. He supports it. But since it doesn't exist he is fighting tariffs with tariffs in hopes of getting closer to free trade.

 

No he does not lol. Free trade would destroy US exports and internal markets as well as the US cannot make any products cheaper than any competitor