Seven Year Old Girl Dies in Custody at the Border

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  1. BahamaBob

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    That is not true either. Do you understand what truth is?
     
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    You may believe whatever right wing myth you wish. I chose to accept reality as it is.
     
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    I need proof.
     
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    The reality, and of course you can try to prove me wrong, is that universal health care didn''t begin in Europe until well after the war, in the 1970's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care
     
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    Whoa. We don't know enough to pass judgment on what others should or shouldn't have done.
    You don't know enough even to suggest this was likely. We can certainly question the wisdom of dragging a child along as he did.
     
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    The other nations don't have almost 400 million people in them either.
    It is impossible to give free care to all these people when only about 30% of the work force pays taxes on high earnings.
    If you went to medical school for at least 7 years and usually around 8 would you want to be paid for this very hard kind of study by the government?
    It is not fair for some put in all that effort and not benefit from it with above average wages. Doctors use to make lots of money and they deserved it for all the stress they deal with and the hard work they put forth to be a professional.
     
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    Yet many here have already judged the agents and America for this death of this poor child.
     
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    At least you admit he was wrong .
     
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    As a taxpayer, I am forced to pay taxes that create trillions in profit for the military industrial complex even though I condemn their wars. But right wingers find that type of corporate welfarism and thievery perfectly ok.
     
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    And what would have happened to Europe if not for the Marshall Plan?

    You're welcome.
     
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    Culture wars before truth. I hope this country turns the corner soon.
     
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    It's been pretty comical to watch this story.

    I hadn't even heard about it until Hillary's tweet, then all the sudden (like NPC clockwork) it was all over every blog and forum outlet.

    But the funny part came right after when everyone realized that it was basically a lie to try to attack Trump and America i general.

    Now like always, the Progressives are holding on to the lie that SOMEHOW it was America/Trump's fault. This is the type of stuff that is killing Democrats though, the hard line Progressives and their hard core partisanship are losing more and more people as lies that are completely twisted for politics come to light.
     
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    actually it is the right wing that blame patriots by claiming that they are for open borders - and, as always, all the right wing lies are exposed and debunked
     
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    Then answer the question, what exactly are you for?

    I am all ears to what policy you actually want to enact, but you Progressives are only attacking ideas of how to solve the problem. From what it looks like, you guys don't even think there IS a problem. So when you continue to say "nothing needs to be done" or whatever other side step, it is the same thing as not answering and acting as if leaving the borders open for people to cross is ok.

    Hence why people claim Progressives are for open borders. Tell the nation what you are actually for, it may get rid of the moniker.
     
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    I'd like to see us at least try get to the bottom of what happened. We shouldn't be complicit in children being hurt or worse and I'm afraid we are if we don't deal with those responsible.
     
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    We don't have immigration laws to "intentionally create crisis". That's just a stupidly ignorant premise. Like it or not we have immigration laws but I thank you for admitting that you are for open borders. Your opinion is of the minority so it's not worth anything. People that put their kids in dangerous situations like this should be charged with involuntary man slaughter and child endangerment. More proof that we can't fix stupid.
     
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    Those aren't rocket launchers. Notice all the zip strips on the guns for safety in that STATIC DISPLAY for the public? Cherry pick and misrepresent much?

    Israeli military shows hardware to children during an army open day in the occupied territories (Photo: Gideon Lichfield)
    https://euobserver.com/foreign/29089


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    Bring your kids to work day: Army style
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    Bring Your Kids to Work Day
    https://www.afrc.af.mil/News/Art/igphoto/2000129487/
     
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    We have fellow Americans risking their necks to protect us and it's wrong to jump to negative conclusions about them. As for America being respinsible... I'm bothered by our deliberately lax enforcement of our laws. It all but entices sometimes desperate people to come here.
     
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    As they are for those that die via bullet or human trafficking.

    Keep in mind I still think she may have been a victim of human trafficking (sexual slavery or otherwise)

    I don't know many fathers, who know their daughters who would have done this.

    Especially as honduran con artists con for 50k to go home.
     
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    Never fast enough.
     
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    Based on what has been reported, he took too much risk.
     
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    *instantly notes the provided "data" (from a school teacher) does not substantiate his claims

    Hey bro, lets audit your worksite and publish it, based on a 2014 (apparently) audit
     
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    His girl slowly dying in front of him was too much risk?

    Even in the holiday season?
     
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    We re throwing out suggestions and that one was mine
     
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