Trump gets his Wall - No DACA timeline yet

The Times reports, "President Trump declared a national emergency at the border on Friday to access billions of dollars to build a border wall that Congress refused to give him, transforming a highly charged policy dispute into a fundamental confrontation over separation of powers.

"In a televised announcement in the Rose Garden, Mr. Trump said he would sign the declaration to protect the country from the flow of drugs, criminals and illegal immigrants coming across the border from Mexico, which he characterized as a profound threat to national security."

In the first place, Trump has this moronic idea that a border wall will stop criminals and drugs from entering our country. He mistakenly associates various crimes by illegal aliens to a border wall. Notice how he avoids mentioning the wall. “We’re going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border and we’re going to do it one way or the other. It’s an invasion. We have an invasion of drugs and criminals coming into our country. We don't control our own border. We're going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border and we're going to do it -- one way or the other we have to do it.”

"IT!" He knows his wall is stupid and ineffectual, and he avoids using the term. The majority of drugs come through ports of entry, and his wall will not even slow down criminals from entering our country. He wants the wall because he made an outrageous campaign promise that is already broken. Mexico is not going to pay for any wall. Unfortunately, 60 million Americans have forgotten that fact, somehow think Trump's wall will stop crime, and support his medieval wall instead of 21st Century methods that will do a better job at less cost.

In the second place, either intentionally or inadvertently, Trump is acting like a Russian agent. Putin's dream is to weaken the American government and throw it into chaos.

In December, contrary to the wishes of his own party, Trump proudly shut down the government over his border wall. It was the longest shutdown in American history. Now he is challenging the Separation of Powers concept contained in our Constitution, once again in opposition to his own party along with the Democrats. Congress appropriates funds. Trump wants to challenge Congress and go around the legislative branch.

In other words, Trump, all on his own, is creating a Constitutional crisis. Putin has to be smiling. He could not be more pleased with what Trump is doing.

Either by accident or by design or through sheer stupidity, Trump is acting like an agent for the Russian Federation. I do not understand how Americans who represent his fan base can support him on this. What in the world is their rationale?

Or are they ignoring reality? Again?

 

Walls work or nations would have stopped building them long ago as well as our rich putting walls around their residences.

So, when you start out with the exclamation walls do not work as a part of border security, you lost credibility with those of us who have brains and actually use them to process facts.

A wall is not a cure all, but it is needed in particular parts, used intelligently and strategically to help minimize illegal immigration. This is just not a one prong approach and never has been. It is just the DP wants to deny reality, and look like professional fools of some king's court. ha ha

The democrats need to stop acting as if they are not trying to undermine any effort to minimize illegal immigration. Clearly they don't want to do what is needed to minimize this flow that never ends, but only cycles.

 

Barriers work, but not walls from seas to shining sea.

 

A reporter for the Washington Examiner has confirmed with contacts inside Customs and Border Protection that a new wall is currently being installed stretching six miles in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley region.

“I checked in with agents at the Rio Grande Valley border sector to see if they knew what new ‘wall’ Trump was talking about,” journalist Eddie Scarry wrote Tuesday, referring to the president’s recent mentions of new barrier construction.

“They sent me information on construction for new border barrier announced last year. The project funds six miles-worth of concrete and steel barrier of the sort that agents told me in January is immensely successful in deterring illegal border crossings.”


Concrete and Steel

I'm not going to call you out on your BS, but I certainly could.

 

iow, no barrier is being built right now, Esperance, which is what you were told.

 

There already is.

 

They have stopped building them. Trump is the only national leader trying to build a wall. The issue is no longer a wall. The issue is a Constitutional crisis which you totally ignored.

You also ignored this part of my post.

In the second place, either intentionally or inadvertently, Trump is acting like a Russian agent. Putin's dream is to weaken the American government and throw it into chaos.

In December, contrary to the wishes of his own party, Trump proudly shut down the government over his border wall. It was the longest shutdown in American history. Now he is challenging the Separation of Powers concept contained in our Constitution, once again in opposition to his own party along with the Democrats. Congress appropriates funds. Trump wants to challenge Congress and go around the legislative branch.

In other words, Trump, all on his own, is creating a Constitutional crisis. Putin has to be smiling. He could not be more pleased with what Trump is doing.

Either by accident or by design or through sheer stupidity, Trump is acting like an agent for the Russian Federation. I do not understand how Americans who represent his fan base can support him on this. What in the world is their rationale?

Or are they ignoring reality? Again?

You must agree with what I said.

 

Jeff Greenfield of Politico writes, "It is now clear that, consciously or not, Trump was delivering a warning to the Republican Party about what he was going to do to it. Two years into his administration, Trump has recognized that the institutional power of the Republican Party has all the effectiveness of the Maginot Line. He can ignore its leaders, scorn them, or just smash through them with no lasting political damage.

"That’s why, on the national emergency, Trump is about to win again. Republican officeholders like Maine’s Susan Collins will surely reach for the thesaurus to find appropriate adjectives (“troubling,” “disturbing,” “unsettling”). The naysayers will look over their shoulders at a party base that stands solidly behind the president. And when the rubble clears, Trump will still be standing, and another key element of the catechism—this time, limited constitutional government with a separation of powers that was outlined by James Madison and other framers—will be in ruins."

It is true prominent Republican leaders like Senators Lamar Alexander, Marco Rubio, Susan Collins, and Rand Paul have made their obligatory dissenting remarks, including "tsk, tsk," then they will quietly agree with Trump and to hell with our Constitution and that Separation of Powers thing everyone is talking about.

Trump's fans will simply ignore the issue and go on cheering Trump. They could care less about the Constitution and the terrible precedent that would be set if Trump is successful. Imagine President Ocassio-Cortez declaring a global warming or gun control national emergency. They will not think about that. Avoidance of issues is their main weapon.

Trump's fans and Republican leaders in Congress can't get it in their heads that Trump's wall and his immigration issues are a losing proposition. That is all Trump talked about at rallies leading up to the 2018 elections. The GOP lost 40 seats and control of the House. Despite a 26 to 9 advantage, they barely hung onto the Senate. They lost several state houses and state legislatures.

Go figure.

 

Not as Trump has described it or boasted about it.

 

Be careful. Don't throw your back out moving those goal posts.

 

When I am up against you, Unky, I can split the goal posts from the concession stands, from the parking lot, and on a six-bounce ricochet from the locker room.

 

You say they have stopped building them? Have they torn any of them down?

 

Somehow I find it odd that YOUR sources are telling you that no wall is being built and that you are telling me that what I have read is incorrect.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-really-did-start-building-more-wall-in-texas

A brand new section of border wall was started on February 7th.

NOT a replacement.

A brand new wall section.

 

zYes, no barriers so far have been built with money passed during the Trump administration.

Trump sat on his hands for two years as McConnell worked successfully for judge appointments.

Coulter is right that Trump is the national emergency.

 

There will never be DACA legislation. Ever.

 

If you really wanted to know what's going on it's easy to check facts. It saves you looking like a fool because you take the word of the world's biggest liar.

The Dems did not fund a penny for the wall. The money they allocated was allocated for a barrier but specifically not a wall. It will buy trump 55 miles of fence. That's little more than what gets done on an annual basis since there's been a border.

 

"The documents label the wall planned for Santa Ana as a “pilot project.” The levee wall there will consist of a concrete base, which will replace the existing earthen levee, topped by an 18-foot steel bollard fence. The Santa Ana segment is projected to cost $45 million — approximately $15 million per mile — and is slated to be completed by July 2019, according to Army Corps of Engineers records."

The Army Corps of Engineers is calling it a, "wall."

Fact check result: Concrete and steel has been funded.

 

And you will find those projects had been funded before trump ever muttered the word WALL. It has nothing to do with what is referred to as "TRUMP'S WALL", There have been projects of different order going on ever since there's been a border. Do you think the 649 miles of barrier that is on the border was done since trump was elected??

 

No money for a wall has been approved by the dems.

Any statement to the contrary is a blatant lie.

 

Either intentionally or inadvertently, Trump is acting like a Russian agent. Putin's dream is to weaken the American government and throw it into chaos.

In December, contrary to the wishes of his own party, Trump proudly shut down the government over his border wall. It was the longest shutdown in American history. Now he is challenging the Separation of Powers concept contained in our Constitution, once again in opposition to his own party along with the Democrats. Congress appropriates funds. Trump wants to challenge Congress and go around the legislative branch.

In other words, Trump, all on his own, is creating a Constitutional crisis. Putin has to be smiling. He could not be more pleased with what Trump is doing.

Either by accident or by design or through sheer stupidity, Trump is acting like an agent for the Russian Federation. I do not understand how Americans who represent his fan base can support him on this. What in the world is their rationale?

No reaction from Trump's fans!

 

Trump's fans and Republican leaders in Congress can't get it in their heads that Trump's wall and his immigration issues are a losing proposition. That is all Trump talked about at rallies leading up to the 2018 elections. The GOP lost 40 seats and control of the House. Despite a 26 to 9 advantage, they barely hung onto the Senate. They lost several state houses and state legislatures.

No reaction from Trump's fans!

 

I agree. They had two years to fund the wall, get rid of obamacare, etc. etc. etc. etc... all things they ran on to get into office, but when given the power to do so, they sat around with their thumbs up their butts.

Trump was no better. He should have been at them from day one to fund the wall, or maybe even getting Mexico to pay for it. He did nothing but sat around with his thumbs up his butt.

The republicans are a disgrace, and if anybody votes for them in 2020, I'll lay into them even quicker than I lay into democrats. At least democrats make no bones about wanting to be complete tyrants. Republicans lie, and lie and lie.

Trump is just another liar.

 

He had a plan, outlined on a campaign web page on how to get MEXICO to pay for the wall.
We've not heard about that plan since he was elected.
It's a campaign tool and he knows it. It's why he waited until midterms and now it will be his platform again in 2020.
How many will fail for it again?

 

This is really a situation where the media has fooled those who can be easily manipulated.

Federal legislation is already on the books that specifies that the President has the ability to utilize funds that will secure the border, including fixed structures commonly known as, "walls."

If the local communities that have input on what is arrived at for border security decide that they want a full fledged, "wall," it is within the power of Homeland Security to fund a wall.
The new legislation provides that:
"Department of Homeland Security and the local elected officials of such a city or census designated place shall confer and seek to reach mutual agreement regarding the design and alignment of physical barriers."

IIRAIRA, the legislation that grants the president the power to build border walls, was passed by unanimous voice vote in the Senate and by almost the entire current Democratic Party leadership a few years back. It has never been rescinded.

Trump, of course, can use any of the $601 million in wall construction from the Treasury Forfeiture Fund, relying on 31 U.S.C. § 9705.
Also, Trump can use $2.5 billion for wall construction under 10 U.S.C. § 284 (this is MilCon $ for combating drug trafficking).

So, the RVG project can and will continue to include some actual, "walls," that will be funded by some of the new $1.37 billion dollars.

 

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/border-wall-construction-project-begin-texas

This particular project was initiated by Trump’s Executive Order 13767 and was funded in 2017.