About the Holocaust

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If there were anything factual about the mythical "mass graves", then someone would be $100,000- richer.


    "THE HOLOCAUST ARCHAEOLOGY HOAX"
    http://www.nafcash.com/

    $100,000.00 REWARD


    For proving - just 1 / 1,000 of 1% - of the criminally fraudulent buried remains allegations" CONTINUED
     
  2. yasureoktoo

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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "He who laughs last laughs best"

    As it turned out, Sturdy Colls only discovered humiliation:

    "Smithsonian Red-Faced after “Treblinka Star of David Tiles” Shown to be Not Jewish At All"

    http://newobserveronline.com/smithsonian-red-faced-after-treblinka-star-of-david-tiles-shown-to-be-not-jewish-at-all/

    EXCERPT "The Smithsonian Institutes’ TV documentary division has been severely embarrassed with the revelation that its recently-released “Treblinka: Hitler’s Killing Machine” documentary—which claimed to have “proved” the existence of “gas chambers” at Treblinka because of the discovery of “tiles with Stars of David,” is an extremely amateurish hoax."CONTINUED
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You get called out on all your lies and yet you persist with your bullshit jew hating holocaust denial and nazi apologism.

    Your hateful motivation is obvious since the material you post and the rhetorical content you add, displays the usual bullshit from the usual sources EXACTLY as mapped out in the handbook.

    The nazi's would be ashamed at both the stupidity and gullibility displayed by all the purveyors of holocaust denial. True nazi's were PROUD of what they did. Eichmann made that crystal clear. Which is one reason they are relegated to bottom of the cesspool status in perpetuity while their apologists crawl just above true nazi slime.
     
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    Not all mass graves found in Eastern Europe are Jewish holocaust victims. Several mass graves that have been found have been remains of Napoleon's "Grand Army" but most of them are of Stalin's victims.

    I'm sure that if the remains are genuine holocaust victims, the folks at Nafcash will gladly accommodate you.
     
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    prove it
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i successfully and repeatedly refuted your silly claim that only 4.5 million European Jews were ever under Nazi or Nazi-ally control.

    the true and accurate number is closer to 9 million

    but you keep yelling "no no no its not true!!!!!"
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I've supported my assertion with 2 different sources while you've got nothing to support your inflated fable:


    - "The Wannsee Conference: Another Lie Crushed"
    http://barnesreview.org/the-wannsee-conference-another-lie-crushed/

    EXCERPT "The actual minutes of the Wannsee Conference can be read in their entirety—in the original German here,

    In reality, the Wannsee meeting and its minutes do not contain a master plan to kill Jews;

    – Nowhere in the meeting’s minutes is genocide discussed, planned, proposed, or even suggested;

    – The Wannsee meeting never discussed gas chambers, shootings, or any of the fantasies propagated by the exterminationists;

    – The Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control (yet 4.3 million Jewish compensation claims have been lodged against the postwar German government)CONTINUED


    - "CHAPTER 2: THE NUMBER OF JEWS UNDER NAZI CONTROL"
    http://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/2018/01/chapter-2-number-of-jews-under-nazi.html
    EXCERPT
    Section 9: There Were 4.5 Million Jews under Direct Nazi Control
    CONTINUED
     
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    claiming that the Nazis treated Jewish WW1 veterans with honor and respect, is total denialism and apologism.
     
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    stop posting lies.

    upwards of 9 million Jews were under Nazi or Nazi-ally control during the war.

    there is also ZERO evidence of 4.3 million individual Holocaust claims being filed against West Germany. Its a LIE
     
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    Yes, we can agree on that
     
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    And I already said that real homicidal gas chambers don't have regular household wooden doors.

    The only form of "gas chamber" at the German camps were defumigation chambers for killing lice etc on clothes and mattresses.
    Defumigation chambers were used to save lives, not kill people


    "Rebutting the anti-revisionist’s 'best evidence' for the existence of Nazi 'gas chambers'"
    https://www.historiography-project.com/misc/rebuttal.php

    EXCERPT "If you want to believe the "Holocaust" happened, fine. If you want to hate Germans for occurrences — real or imagined — that happened 50 years ago, that is your problem. But without substantive evidence to the contrary, the "gas chamber" lie must go, just as have other lies about Germany, Germans, and the "Holocaust," such as the "human soap" lie and countless others."CONTINUED


    “The Problems of Mass Gassing”
    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/was-there-really-a-judaic-holocaust/
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    • 1). Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.

    • 2). There have been thousands of investigations of alleged Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single person gassed—AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000 MASS GASSINGS!

    • 3). Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also died from typhus.

    • 4). The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED
     
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    Was the genocide of the Nazi's a bad thing.
     
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    It doesn't matter what you have said.
    You were wrong then, and you are wrong now.
    Hell, the first ones were made entirely of wood.
     
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    And I already said that real homicidal gas chambers don't have regular household wooden doors.

    The only form of "gas chamber" at the German camps were defumigation chambers for killing lice etc on clothes and mattresses.
    Defumigation chambers were used to save lives, not kill people


    "Rebutting the anti-revisionist’s 'best evidence' for the existence of Nazi 'gas chambers'"
    https://www.historiography-project.com/misc/rebuttal.php

    EXCERPT "If you want to believe the "Holocaust" happened, fine. If you want to hate Germans for occurrences — real or imagined — that happened 50 years ago, that is your problem. But without substantive evidence to the contrary, the "gas chamber" lie must go, just as have other lies about Germany, Germans, and the "Holocaust," such as the "human soap" lie and countless others."CONTINUED


    “The Problems of Mass Gassing”
    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/was-there-really-a-judaic-holocaust/
    EXCERPT
    • 1). Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.

    • 2). There have been thousands of investigations of alleged Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single person gassed—AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000 MASS GASSINGS!

    • 3). Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also died from typhus.

    • 4). The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED
     
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    oh so the Red Cross didn't interview any Jews who actually went inside a gas chamber?

    whoda thunk it?????????????????

    Holocaust denial is void of logic, reason and rational thinking
     
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    And the ones who cleaned up afterwords, checking for gold teeth.
     
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    Unlike the Soviet gulags & Eisenhower's death camps, the Red Cross was allowed to inspect all the German camps and the fact remains that no one interred in a German camp mentioned any homicidal gas chambers.

    Debunking the homicidal gas chamber myth is not "holocaust denial".
    Nobody denies that people were executed however, holocaust authority Arno Mayer states that more inmates died of diseases & natural causes than by execution.
     
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    LOLOL

    Nobody entered the death camps until after the war when they were overrun.

    The red cross did not just walk past thousands of dead bodies and not notice it.

    We have films of the people of the neighboring town did not know what was going on, but were forced to look at it, and clean it up.
    Lotsa puking.
     
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    now you're just trolling.

    you know for a fact that there is tons of testimony from foreign Einsatzgruppen, Jewish Kapos, and SS attesting to the existence of the gas chambers.

    you just keep ignoring it cause honest discussion of the Holocaust is not your agenda.

    what is your agenda? I suspect the rehabilitation of Nazi reputation.

    however, you could prove me wrong by stating here and now that the Nazis were extremely bigoted against the Jewish people and were WRONG to exile them from Germany and all the nations of Central Europe. The Jews of Germany were for the most part loyal citizens of their country, and they did not deserve any punishment, either collectively or individually.

    can we agree on that? can we agree that the expulsions, the deportations, the bigoted regulations and the Ghettos and the work/concentration camps were all wrong and bigoted?
     
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    @Grau

    look at this video, and tell us why the Nazis deserve any form of reputational revival

    WARNING- VERY GRAPHIC VIDEO OF HOLOCAUST VICTIMS

     
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    Here's a nice tour

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...8862E5FC8E58E3C975EE8862E5FC8E58&&FORM=VRDGAR
     
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    Again classic tactics.

    I have refuted the bullshit that thousands of jews fought for hitler's germany in ww2, in DIRECT CONTRADICTION OF THE NURMEBURG LAWS.

    I exposed your gross misrepresentation that USHMM "admitted" to photo manipulation. Apparently an exhibit by the Museum on how the photographic imagery of the holocaust was manipulated by the allegiance of the picture taker.

    I have exposed the fact that you use the identical tactics that historical holocaust revisionists (aka holocaust deniers) use. I must say you maintain the facade better than most. Zundel would be proud to see his bullshit perpetuated.

    You have expressed denial by refusing to accept the mountain of evidence the existence of the gas chambers and that the final solution was a concerted attempt at industrialized genocide of designated subhumans. That's commonly called a "state of denial".

    To suggest that jews supported hitler's germany by serving in his army is an anti-semitic smear. I prefer to call anti-semites by the more accurate term jew hater.

    And to suggest that the Nazi's were misunderstood and actually simply victims of the vindictive victors and victims propaganda sure as hell is NAZI APOLOGISM.

    So keep up the pompous self righteous indignation - I aint' buyin' it for a second but no doubt you'll keep tryin' to sell it.
     
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