What? of course mischlinge are jews under nazi law. Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honour[edit] Moved by the understanding that purity of German blood is the essential condition for the continued existence of the German people, and inspired by the inflexible determination to ensure the existence of the German nation for all time, the Reichstag has unanimously adopted the following law, which is promulgated herewith: Article 1 Marriages between Jews and citizens of German or related blood are forbidden. Marriages nevertheless concluded are invalid, even if concluded abroad to circumvent this law. Annulment proceedings can be initiated only by the state prosecutor.[48] Article 2 Extramarital relations between Jews and citizens of German or related blood are forbidden.[48] Article 3 Jews may not employ in their households female citizens of German or related blood who are under 45 years old.[48] Article 4 Jews are forbidden to fly the Reich or national flag or display Reich colours. They are, on the other hand, permitted to display the Jewish colours. The exercise of this right is protected by the state.[48] Article 5 Any person who violates the prohibition under Article 1 will be punished with prison with hard labour [Zuchthaus]. A male who violates the prohibition under Article 2 will be punished with prison [Gefängnis] or prison with hard labour. Any person violating the provisions under Articles 3 or 4 will be punished with prison with hard labour for up to one year and a fine, or with one or the other of these penalties.[48] Article 6 The Reich Minister of the Interior, in co-ordination with the Deputy of the Führer and the Reich Minister of Justice, will issue the legal and administrative regulations required to implement and complete this law.[48] Article 7 The law takes effect on the day following promulgation, except for Article 3, which goes into force on 1 January 1936.[48] Reich Citizenship Law[edit] The Reichstag has unanimously enacted the following law, which is promulgated herewith: Article 1 A subject of the state is a person who enjoys the protection of the German Reich and who in consequence has specific obligations toward it. The status of subject of the state is acquired in accordance with the provisions of the Reich and the Reich Citizenship Law.[48] Article 2 A Reich citizen is a subject of the state who is of German or related blood, and proves by his conduct that he is willing and fit to faithfully serve the German people and Reich. Reich citizenship is acquired through the granting of a Reich citizenship certificate. The Reich citizen is the sole bearer of full political rights in accordance with the law.[48] Article 3 The Reich Minister of the Interior, in co-ordination with the Deputy of the Führer, will issue the legal and administrative orders required to implement and complete this law.[48] Classifications under the laws[edit] 1935[49] Classification Translation Heritage Definition Deutschblütiger German-blooded German Belongs to the German race and nation; approved to have Reich citizenship Deutschblütiger German-blooded 1⁄8 Jewish Considered as belonging to the German race and nation; approved to have Reich citizenship Mischling zweiten Grades Mixed race (second degree) 1⁄4 Jewish Only partly belongs to the German race and nation; approved to have Reich citizenship Mischling ersten Grades Mixed race (first degree) 3⁄8 or 1⁄2Jewish Only partly belongs to the German race and nation; approved to have Reich citizenship Jude Jew 3⁄4 Jewish Belongs to the Jewish race and community; not approved to have Reich citizenship Jude Jew Jewish Belongs to the Jewish race and community; not approved to have Reich citizenship Special Cases with First Degree Mischlinge[49] Date Decree 15 September 1935 A Mischling will be considered a Jew if they are a member of the Jewish religious community. 15 September 1935 A Mischling will be considered a Jew if they are married to a Jew. Their children will be considered Jews. 17 September 1935 A mixed-race child that is born of a marriage with a Jew, where the marriage date is after 17 September 1935, will be classified as a Jew. Those born in marriages officiated on or before 17 September 1935 will still be classified as Mischlinge. 31 July 1936 A mixed-race child originating from forbidden extramarital sexual intercourse with a Jew that is born out of wedlock after 31 July 1936 will be classified as a Jew.
Oh look more revisionsist bullshit spin from "barnes review" of all places. Who would have thunk. Course Barnes cherry picked Bauers comments to make it look like wannsee was nothing. Except that is not the point bauer was making. Oh look what else he said. “The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at. Wannsee was but a stage in the unfolding of the process of mass murder,” he said. And as for executing the plan agreed upon in that meeting, Heydrich was assassinated 4 months after the meeting so he couldn't really check off all the boxes of the plan. OTOH, the movement of jews to the "east" began in earnest with operation Rienhardt. Perhaps you haven't read that far ahead in your big book of "revisionsist nazi apologetics".
Okay disagree with me. The nazi's industrialized genocide. The turks carried it out the old fashion way. WE can all agree that genocide is a bad thing.
I just posted the laws, with the follow up amendments. Yes a mischlinge can be a german citizen but only under certain conditions. to repeat: 15 September 1935 A Mischling will be considered a Jew if they are a member of the Jewish religious community. 15 September 1935 A Mischling will be considered a Jew if they are married to a Jew. Their children will be considered Jews. 17 September 1935 A mixed-race child that is born of a marriage with a Jew, where the marriage date is after 17 September 1935, will be classified as a Jew. Those born in marriages officiated on or before 17 September 1935 will still be classified as Mischlinge. 31 July 1936 A mixed-race child originating from forbidden extramarital sexual intercourse with a Jew that is born out of wedlock after 31 July 1936 will be classified as a Jew. It pretty damn clear that the revisionist nonsense that tens of thousands of jews fought for hitler is bullshit based entirely on the laws of the scum bag nazis they are trying to rehabilitate.
More "You..., You..., You...," When are YOU going to write anything on-topic? The holocaust was just a tiny part of a much greater tragedy: WW 2 and your "industrialized murder" meme is just another attempt to make the holocaust seem more profound than the many other mass killings that were of equal or greater mortality. Part of the "industrialized murder" meme includes long debunked frauds such as homicidal "electrocution chambers", homicidal "steam chambers" and, of course homicidal "gas chambers". Since none of the above homicidal execution chambers existed or has ever been found, the holocaust is no different than any other tragic mass killing except that it has been the most crassly exploited and most profitable for what Norman Finkelstein calls "The Holocaust Industry". Now, prove your "industrialized murder" fiction by producing just one photo of an actual homicidal gas chamber.
What's this infantile "you lose" nonsense. You've produced absolutely nothing that refutes what I have written & supported with 2 credible sources. Go ahead and list all the countries that the Nazis occupied so I can explain, again, that occupying a country does not mean it is under complete control of the occupiers. The US "occupied" S. Vietnam.... how much control did it have over it's land & people? The fact remains that the Nazis had control over 4.5 Jews as was declared at the Wannsee Conference and you can find absolutely nothing to refute that fact.
Ever since USHMM was caught deliberately altering photographs(1), I no longer regard it as a credible source. If they're willing to distort photos, they're willing to falsify statistics to perpetuate profit driven falsehoods. As I tried to explain to another individual, just because a country is occupied does not mean that the occupiers have complete control over all the land and all the people. For example, the US occupied S. Vietnam but had little control over the land and all its people. If the motive behind holocaust remembrance were to prevent present & future ethnic cleanings, why are the Jewish Israelis conducting ethnic cleansing today in Palestine? What about "Never Again" when the Israelis are slaughtering innocent civilians, destroying their homes & stealing their land? Others exploit "holocaust remembrance" as simply another means to extract additional $ Billions from today's Germans. For example: "Holocaust Survivors' Children Sue Germany for Therapy Fees" https://www.haaretz.com/1.4952800 EXCERPT "Suit, filed in Tel Aviv, seeks funds to pay for biweekly therapy sessions for up to 20,000 affected by the scars of their parents. The lawsuit marks the very first time that the German government will be asked to take responsibility and to care for those of the second generation in Israel and indeed, worldwide, attorney Gideon Fisher said before filing the suit at the Tel Aviv District Court."CONTINUED If it's not about the money, why, then, is no amount of money enough? (1) "Fake Holocaust photos at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum" https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/...-the-united-states-holocaust-memorial-museum/
OMG. Of course the holocaust was only a part (not a small one by any means) of the tragedy of ww2. More than 20 million russians died. Millions of Roms, millions of poles, the vast majority being civilians. Of course you and yours ALWAYS moan about how all those deaths are ignored in dicussion of the holocaust. Seems you've never been to Yad Vashem. You've never visited the USHMM or any of the other museums dedicated to it. Homicidal gas chambers existed and were extensively used. Holocaust deniers are willfully ignorant, relying on the likes of such quacks as Leuchter, Ball, Cole, Barnes, Faurisson, Krege, Rudolph etc. And its also true that there are a small minority of abusers of the holocaust "industry", whose stories are bullshit and their motivations selfish. Naturally you and yours immediately move to the standard massive generalized extrapolation. I have read finkelsteins book? Have you? I doubt it considering how you have only referenced the standard denial bumpersticker. Its not surprising that holocaust deniers appear to be mentally incapable of accepting historical facts. And naturally you won't take the word of the actual murdering criminals. Like I said grau, there ain't a single thing you can present that hasn't been totally debunked in great detail. Naturally you reject such evidence because your position is motivated by your ideology, not by facts. But keep whining about how unfair I am to you and the bullshit you keep trying to shovel.
I'm sure USHMM made a mistake, human error, no deliberate attempt to deceive their visitors. They should be advised about that. That's true. The Nazis had stable control over entire Poland. So they were able to murder nearly all 3 Million Jews of this country. And they did it. In contrast, the occupation of the SU was an ongoing process that finally failed.
right out of how to be a revisions scholar: 11. The Great Leap -- This tactic goes like this: If one piece of testimony about the Holocaust seems unreliable, then ALL testimony about the Holocaust is unreliable. If one Holocaust witness may have recanted something on the stand, then all other Holocaust witnesses are liars. If some camp prisoners did not starve to death, then NONE of them starved to death. etc. But be careful. This is a double-edged sword -- someone may use the well-documented lies of other revisionists to conclude that YOU are a liar as well. His posts check all the boxes. It seems the actual exhibit wasn't caught doing any manipulation. It was an exhibit ABOUT image manipulation itself in presenting the story of the holocaust. This kind of slimy misrepresentation is what the entire denialist movement is based on. Only the idiots and the haters buy into this bullshit.
FYI if you haven't seen this link before. Its a classic and its dead on accurate. https://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/Exhib/HowtoEngl.html
Nazis and their Fascist allies occupied all of Ukraine, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia and parts of western Russia for YEARS!!!!
Oh no! Not that phony Suchomel "Confession" video you keep trying to pass of that even a 12 year old can tell is fake. Fortunately, someone a little older has already exposed it as another staged fraud(1) Meanwhile, that's a lot of verbiage, personal attacks & musing about my "ideology" just to admit that you can't find just one photo of a homicidal gas chamber. After all if homicidal gas chambers were used "extensively" as you say, then there should be hundreds of them around. Where are they? If we've been lied to about homicidal gas chambers, what else about the standard holocaust narrative is fraudulent in addition to those numerous other frauds that I've noted through this thread. Without homicidal gas chambers, your "industrialized execution" meme goes out the window and the holocaust, while horrific, is no more special or profound than any other tragic mass killing. So, produce a photo of a real, WW 2 German homicidal gas chamber (i.e. hard evidence) and try to validate the fraudulent standard holocaust narrative with which you have been so thoroughly indoctrinated. "The Suchomel “Confession” in Claude Lanzmann’s “Shoah” Movie" .http://peterwinterwriting.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-suchomel-confession-in-claude.html EXCERPT "Most importantly however, the interview with Suchomel was clearly done with more than one camera—directly contradicting Lanzmann’s claims in theNew York Times. A stationary, hidden camera in a bag would only show one angle of a “secret” interview—but instead, as can be seen from the screenshots below, there are at least four different camera angles, each taken at differing focal lengths and perspectives—something that would be impossible with just one “hidden camera.” It is clear from this narrative alone, that even if Lanzmann did not tamper with the fuzzy film “interview”, all that Suchomel said was the typical “do-not-deny-it-happened-but-just-deny-that-I-was-involved” type confession which was the only way to avoid being caught up in further legal trouble in post-war Germany."CONTINUED
They didn't as only 5% - 10% of the German population were members of Germany's National Socialist Party (aka Nazis). There were also Jewish individuals who were high ranking members of the Nazi party: "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of Jewish descent."CONTINUED Re: Of course you're angry, frightened & bitter at having the fraudulent tenets of your holocaustian cult debunked. Here, maybe this will help ease your transition to rational thought: "HOLOCAUST DEPROGRAMMING COURSE" https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
What the hell is wrong with this website moderators in allowing this thread to go slowly ever closer to being an out an out holocaust denial thread????!!!!!????? Kind of reminding me of the Greek myth of Icarus flying ever higher until the sun melted his wax wings off. Very very sickening with special note for anyone who had gotten to talk to holocaust survivors. So moderators the wax is beginning to melt off the wings so how far are you going to allow this to go on before shutting it down?
"Still No "homicidal Gas Chamber Photo" I an far from alone in rejecting Suchomel's fraudulently taped "confession" just as I have supported how & why it deserves no credibility (1). None of the tortured, drugged and/or surreptitiously obtained "confessions" either at Nuremberg (2) or in Israel would be admitted in a legitimate American court of law & Eichmann's case is no different. Anyone familiar with Eichmann knows he was merely a low ranking cog, infamous braggart & entirely unreliable witness eager to please his captors whose motives were clearly for maximum publicity and to further the fraudulent standard holocaust narrative. Before the Israeli "trial", the Israeli interrogators held Eichmann for about a year during which time they were highly motivated to have drugged, brainwashed & scripted an already confused & malleable individual to say anything they wanted him to say in front of a courtroom full of international journalists all hyped, prepped & ready for the show "trial". So, no, I do not consider tortured, drugged, beaten & brainwashed "confessions" legitimate and neither did the many American politicians & journalists who condemned their extraction at Nuremberg. Now, enough of your off topic bragging, insults & personal slurs. Produce a photo of just one German, WW 2 homicidal gas chamber. You said that they were used "extensively" so any self proclaimed expert should have no trouble producing dozens. (1) "The Suchomel “Confession” in Claude Lanzmann’s “Shoah” Movie" .http://peterwinterwriting.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-suchomel-confession-in-claude.html (2) The following are just 2 quotes from numerous American jurists who condemned the Nuremberg trials as a "lynching" & "...a shocking travesty of high legal and moral principles." - “About this whole judgment there is the spirit of vengeance, and vengeance is seldom justice. The hanging of the 11 men convicted will be a blot on the American record which we shall long regret.” - US Senator Robert Taft, 1946 - "Chief US prosecutor Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg......I hate to see the pretence that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas." - US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone
You keep using the word "bullshit" because that, personal slurs & puerile insults all you've got. So, I dare you to show just one instance in which you have refuted anything I have both written & supported. Now, produce just one photo of a German, WW 2 homicidal gas chamber; not defumigation chamber but one of those homicidal gas chambers that allegedly held "hundreds of people".
Thank God that this is America where we still have free speech. Countless loyal Americans have died to protect that valuable right but you're willing to eviscerate it for just one protected class of victims when there have been numerous tragedies of equal or greater magnitude that you feel are open for debate. Would you like to "shut down" discussions about Mao machinations, Stalin's enormities or Pol Pot's massacres and if not, why? The Truth welcomes the sunlight of open debate & honest examination while the Lie can only survive under the sort of totalitarian censorship laws without which the standard holocaust narrative would crumble. By the way, I, too, have talked to many holocaust survivors who reject the inflated myths & grisly frauds perpetrated by what Norman Finkelstein calls the very profitable "Holocaust Industry".
