Mass shootings and Trump

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Aug 4, 2019.

  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    NO Dude everyone knows the lies leftist perpetuate about what Trump said about Charlottesville. Some people actually know the truth and understand that the real haters and the real drivers of division are all on the left and they've been lying and dividing for years if not centuries.

    And again Betts wasn't a copy cat he was a lover of antifa, and a satanist who hated Trump and set out to kill all the fascists, the irony of that appears lost on him.
     
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    So why not also blame Trump for the 21 killed at a McDonalds in San Ysirdio, CA 35 years ago? How about the 23 people killed in Killeen, TX at a Luby's back in '91? Why not blame Trump for the 168 people killed in the Oklahoma City bombing during the Clinton presidency? The Boston Marathon bombing could also be blamed on Trump. Since we're on a roll you can also blame Trump for the record number of shootings in Chicago back in 2015. There's a whole list of mass shootings that I'm sure you can find a reason to place fault on Trump.

    This has been going on since 1966 when Charles Whitman stabbed both his mother and wife to death before climbing to the top of the UT tower in Austin, TX and killing another 14 people with a rifle.
     
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  3. SEAL Team V

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    The one you see in the mirror every morning.
     
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    MelKor Well-Known Member

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    trump is a total Ass Kisser of the NRA.....
     
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    Wow, thanks for the factual insight. I look forward to your next post with great eagerness.
     
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    It's not rocket science, just ordinary human behavior, copy-cat style.
     
  8. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get a grip on reality. These shootings were racist inspired, anti immigrant, and given tacit approval by Trump. Trump has unleashed a perfect storm. Racial bigotry and fear of invasion by foreigners, easy access to military weapons, an aroused social media in support of white supremacy and killing foreigners, and all of this ignored or approved by language of the president of the United States.

    Trump apples to our worst instincts of bigotry, fear, and ignorance. The end result is predictable. I have no interest in events in the distant past. I'm looking at today.
     
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    Bull. Trump has never approved of shooting people and your partisanship is of the basest kind. I bet you think that the shooter was racist because you believe the manifesto but don't believe he was radicalized before Trump came along because you don't believe the manifesto.
     
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    More accurately it used to be Bush's fault. Then it was Obama's fault. Now it's Trump's fault. And the next time a Dem is in office it will be his fault. And back and forth we go with the junior high school blame game.
     
  11. opion8d

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    "Caravans with 20,000 people are invading our country. It's an invasion folks." "They're sending their worst people. These are rapists, criminals...."

    How's that? Missed it? Try listening to his rallies.
     
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    Or the more recent past apparently since Dayton apparently had nothing to do with race. You are very selective in your choice of events.

    Face it. There are nut jobs out there. They were there before Trump became president. They are out there now and they will be out there after Trump is long gone.
     
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    Gee! I wonder why anybody would expect Trump to take action. I mean, it's not like he's in charge or anything....

    If we want action, we should ask the real boss. Putin! What are you going to do about this!
     
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    What Dayton had to do with it is that Trump held a rally there recently. Statistically, when that happens, local violence spikes 226%.
     
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    Would that be because he was a Warren supporter and wanted to punish Trump supporters because of left wing rhetoric?
     
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    That probably explains all those twenty or thirty years ago. Trump was probably there also.
     
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    Undoubtedly a portion of the spike can be attributed to clashes with counter demonstraters. The stat you tossed out is worthless without any causation data, or indication of how many instances 226% represents. Up 226% from 10 instances on any given day when 30 - 40,000 out of town political rally attendees aren't clashing with protesters? I doubt you can make a case for Trump inspired violence, but don't let me discourage you. Show everyone your data.
     
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    That's because none of you lefties know what personal responsibility is. The shooter is at fault here and only the shooter.
     
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    Read the OP!

    You must have voted for Trump, geez.
     
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    Yeah still your "kind" made it easy for these Gun Nuts to obtain weapons of war to be used against the American People...Now go blame Obama
     
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    What is the lie?You never said.

    Source?

    "Police still don't know whether the gunman who murdered nine people and wounded dozens more in Dayton, Ohio, over the weekend targeted his sister in the shooting spree, authorities said Monday.

    "Dayton's police chief admitted he's gone back and forth, trying to get inside the mind of Betts, 24, who was killed by police. Six of nine slain are African American but police still can say whether race could have been a motivating factor."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...don-t-know-if-gunman-targeted-sister-n1039236

    I saw this all day yesterday, and it is quite typical of Trump and Trumpets. They are trying to lie their way through this. The fact is, the President beginning with the first day of his candidacy has made bigoted remarks against minorities, and his attack on non-white members of Congress has gone for weeks.

    Obviously, the President influenced the killers, and there were three mass murders in eight days. The logic is inescapable.

    "Very little is known about Betts, but he was wearing body armor and had several extra magazines for his .223-caliber rifle, according to AP, and he was wearing all black. There were reports he was wearing a mask."

    That is all I said about Betts. He is probably a copy cat killer considering there were two mass killings by white supremacists within the eight days he committed his.
     
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    What have YOU done to unite this country?
     
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    Apparently diversity is not our strength. The only thing it has gained for America are two different populations that view the other population as an existential threat. The white left is shrinking every day (mostly due to the vocal anti-white rhetoric of more and more Democrats), it will not functionally exist in a few decades. We are headed towards 90% whites voting for Republicans and everybody else for Democrats. If that does in fact occur, we no longer have a country, we have tribes.
     
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    Doesn't it strike you as significant that there were three mass shootings in eight days right after Trump's malicious, bigoted attacks on representatives of color?
     
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    This was not unexpected. Trump's big mouth caused three mass murders in eight days. That is obvious. Trump's fans have no choice. They must either ignore reality, ask really foolish questions, and/or lie.

     

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