Mass shootings and Trump

Describing neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and members of the KKK who participated in an armed invasion of Charlottesville, VA, Trump said, "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

Describing four women of color who are members of Congress and known as "The Squad," Trump said, “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.” All four are American citizens. Three were born in the U.S. The fourth came to the U.S. as a child.

Elijah Cummings is a black member of the House of Representatives from Baltimore, and he is chairman of the Oversight Committee. Trump described Cummings' Seventh District as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess,” Trump added “no human being would want to live there.” Trump has engaged in a week long attack on Cummings, each tweet becoming more vile than the last.

A mass shooting occurred at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in Gilroy, California, on July 28, 2019, at 5:40 p.m., resulting in four deaths—including the gunman—and 12 injuries. The shooter, Santino William Legan, was a white supremacist.

The suspect, Patrick Crusius, in a deadly mass shooting at a shopping mall in El Paso, Texas, yesterday was widely identified on the internet as a young white man whose social media activity showed support and sympathy for Trump’s apparent white nationalist agenda.

Less than 24 hours after a gunman opened fire in El Paso, Texas, a mass shooter killed nine people and injured 26 others in Dayton, Ohio. The killer died at the scene. He has been identified as Connor Betts.

Very little is known about Betts, but he was wearing body armor and had several extra magazines for his .223-caliber rifle, according to AP, and he was wearing all black. There were reports he was wearing a mask.

 

I wondered how long it would take for people to blame Trump. It used to be Bush's fault. But times have changed.

 

For years, I have warned Trump supporters on this forum and elsewhere that Trump's explosive, racist, and divisive language would foment violence of the kind we just witnessed. Only those in total denial are immune from these warnings. I usually end such posts with, "This will not end well." I would add, it will go on and on and it will get worse.

 

Thank heavens all the lefties on board have never stooped so low as to make any negative comments about President Trump or his followers. Discovering where hate comes from just requires one owning a mirror.

As for the OP, he/she/alphabet let me down. I would have expected his/her/alphabets post within minutes of the first shot being fired just as he/she/alphabet did for the hundreds of dead in Chicago and Baltimore over the last couple of weeks. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/c...0190803-lgfvfsayljhzliyxv7aowkws5m-story.html
BALTIMORE (WJZ) — As of July 11, there have been 171 murders in Baltimore,13 of those have happened since July 1.
Chicago stats to date,
http://heyjackass.com/

 

Shocking ! Sandy thinks its Trump's fault.

 

Even more shocking is that Sandy is far from alone.

 

What about the mass shootings before Trump came on the scene? We should warn you that whoever is elected in 2020, there will be more mass shootings as well as in 2024, 2028.....etc

 

We have had over 250 mass shootings of four or more people so far this year more than one per day.With the rhetoric our bone spur leader spews out they are coming fast and furious.Our congress needs to get off their dead beat asses and start addressing our gun violence issues head on, instead of sidestepping them.

 

Everything was calm until the Democrat Primary Season. Dancing on the dead bodies as you are prone to doesn't change the fact that Liberals championed the end of morality in our society, the end of the two parent child raising and the end of competent parenting. Add the corrosive environment you brought in the primary season.

Charlotteville was about a radical progressive migrating from the University to the mayor's office. There was no reason to incite riots as he did. The KKK was the militant arm of the Democrat Party replaced by the ANTIFA terrorists. Own it, Bevis. Own it all.

 

Somehow the math is not working. We have had around 285 killings in mass shooting in 2019. Apparently the average number of deaths in a mass shooting is about one per mass shooting. .More than that have been shot and killed in Chicago in 2019.

 

Well, the lefties say the Chicago killings are also Trump's fault.

 

Most wingnuts i guess.

 

You didnt say **** about Obama when multiple shootings occurred while he was president.

Instead, you blamed republicans. Even when a lunatic went after republicans on a baseball field.

 

No, typical of a Biden supporter that claims to be a republican.

 

Here's more:

 

Not long because it was obvious. Not even Mulvaney could defend Trump.

The whole nation knows what Trump has said about the neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and KKK members after Charlottesville along with his comments about "The Squad" and Elijah Cummings. On the first day of his candidacy Trump attacked immigrants from Mexico and Central America. All Mulvaney was able to say was Trump was both angry and sad that three mass shootings occurred within of eight days.

Two of the shootings were committed by white supremacists and it is safe to assume Conner Betts was a copy cat killer, not be outdone by Santino William Legan (Gilroy) and Patrick Crusius (El Paso).

Dayton, El Paso, and Gilroy were unintended consequences of Trump's racial blasphemy and that is why Mulvaney could not defend Trump.

The chief of staff cannot un-ring a bell.

“You cannot be a white supremacist and be normal in the head. These are sick people," Mulvaney said.

Describing neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and members of the KKK at Charlottesville, Trump said, "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

 

Correction: in this forum it was always "BLAME OBAMA!"

Now the tables have turned and rightfully so as Trump has fomented so much hatred and violence (recall him saying he would pay for legal counselling for all those righties charged with violence). Now righties have no excuse to defend that hate filled traitor as the violence was inevitable thanks to all his hatred for others.

 

Now with the knowledge that the Dayton Shooter was a republican hater and Fauxhontas supporter shall we await your immediate hate Fauxhontas thread?

 

Sure, it will, as long as the President of the United States is making indignant, bigoted comments about members of the U.S. Congress. Think of it, Trump is using racial slurs against members of Congress!

Coming from the President, that is a call to arms for neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and members of the KKK. Trump had a senior advisor who was a self-described white nationalist, Steve Bannon.

If the President is attacking members of Congress because of their race or ancestry, what chance does a poor black man on the streets of Washington's ghetto have? The effect of Trump's racial epithets is an open season for bigots armed with assault rifles as Gilroy, El Paso, and Dayton in the past eight days have shown.

 

In reply to my post, that is just about all you can say.

 

So far nothing you posted proved this is on Trump. Here's a concept that you might find strange. THE SHOOTERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHOOTINGS
THREAD FAIL!

 

Or other Presidents, not just Obama. There is one huge difference.

Other Presidents did not spark the violence. I noticed you had no comments regarding Trump's assault on blacks as mentioned in the OP. There is not much you can say.

Please do not make a fool of yourself by saying the President's bigoted remarks had no effect on the white supremacist shooters.

Of course, you or others may say that. Trump's fans have a difficulty time with reality. They usually avoid it.

 

Blame Trump, blame Obama, blame the Great Pumpkin as it's not them but it's us who are to blame. Our society is sick and getting sicker and WE do nothing but pass the F'n blame. To stupid and/or afraid to look in the mirror for the truth of what's happening. But WTF if it makes you feel good to blame others AND inanimate objects than have at it.

 

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You are missing the point entirely, probably on purpose. No one is saying Trump is directly responsible for the killings. That is ludicrous.

What I am saying is that the President's bigoted comments had an influence on the shooters. The shooters themselves prove that statement.

You are in denial. Face reality. Your obfuscation tells us you know the truth. In trying to escape reality, you are not the only one. Most of Trump's fans are doing the very same thing.