Mass shootings and Trump

No it is your mantra

One more time you have no evidence for your premise and it is not self evident

 

“The shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate," Trump said today.

“This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas,” says an anti-immigrant online manifesto by the accused gunman.

"Many Gang Members and some very bad people are mixed into the Caravan heading to our Southern Border. Please go back, you will not be admitted into the United States unless you go through the legal process. This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!" Trump once tweeted.

The shooter traveled over 600 miles to get to the largest city on the Texas/Mexico border to kill as many Mexicans as he could. He killed 21 people and injured 27.

The stock market experienced its worst day the year. The Dow lost 767 points, Nasdaq 278 points, and the S&P 87 points. Why?

Trump's trade war with China.

"Stocks fell sharply Monday as a trade war between the world’s largest economies intensified with China retaliating against President Donald Trump’s latest move. The move continues a sell-off that began last week when President Trump ordered new tariffs on the rest of Chinese goods."

“Now we have a trade situation that is going off the rails as the side effects multiply due to the ramping up of the use of tariffs and we are only further apart from any resolution with the Chinese,” said Peter Boockvar, chief investment officer at Bleakley Advisory Group. “The policy of using tariffs as a tool to address our legitimate beefs with the Chinese has failed miserably.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/us-futures-amid-trade-turmoil-between-beijing-and-washington.html

Millions of Americans permanently lost millions of dollars in their savings plans last week and now today. Last week was the worst week of the year, now the worst day.

Because of his hate-filled rhetoric, its unintended consequences, and now total failure in his trade war, costing Americans millions, it is time for Trump to step down.

I am trying to imagine how Republicans in Congress can support this guy anymore. Trump is walking disaster.

 

The one in Dayton was not a white supremacist.

 

Stop the damn lying. You've been called on that Charlottesville lie at least a dozen times now. A meme based on a lie is itself a liar and and a man or a woman who will not give up the lie once demonstrated acts under compulsion to repeat that lie.

 

Sorry but there is a hell of a lot more to the manifesto than you are telling.

 

We know the first two mass killings were by white supremacists influenced by Trump's hate speech. It is possible, in Betts' mind, he was retaliating against white supremacist extremism.

Or, he just wanted to kill his sister.

In any case, he was motivated by the first two mass murders. I don't believe in coincidence.

There are only two sources for your revelation about Betts, the Washington Times and Examiner. Both are conservative sources and both usually are Trump friendly. I am not saying the information is false, but it is strange that a Google search reveals only two sources for that gem and both are Trump friendly.

 

I am not doing the lying.

 

Yes you are Your trump quote is entirely inaccurate to put it mildly. This has been repeatedly been pointed out to you by numerous people yet you keep resorting to it.

 

You actually don't know that. You are only assuming that is true.

You don't believe in coincidences? They happen all the time or do you believe everything is determined in advance?

Actually the very liberal Snopes agrees with me.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dayton-shooter-warren/

 

Thanks for your proof of what I said. He clearly isn't talking about the Klan and the Neonazis

 

WE know no such thing you merely assume that because it is convenient for your narrative.

 

I am not going to waste my time reviewing the thread for you. Trump's fans are in denial. It is all they can do. They must simply deny every fact, deny reality, and hope those recording the facts will waste their time answering obvious denials of the truth.

In the meantime they are supporting a man who encouraged the mass shootings with his reckless rhetoric. It would not be a shock if some here are happy with the eight days of hell.

 

Like I said, you are in denial. Black is white. Night is day.

 

That would be you. Sorry dude 2+2 doesn't equal 35.

 

Trump voters understand that you are trying to shape reality to suit you instead of accepting it as it is.

 

Sandy Shanks said: ↑

We know the first two mass killings were by white supremacists influenced by Trump's hate speech.

Another who is denial. It is the only way to defend Trump and his malicious, hate-filled remarks. No,I am not assuming.

The gunman in the Gilroy Garlic Festival shooting was identified by police as 19-year-old Santino William Legan. On the day of the attack, Legan urged his Instagram followers to read a 19th century book popular with white supremacists on extremist websites. He also complained about overcrowding towns and paving open space to make room for "hordes" of Latinos and Silicon Valley whites.

https://abc7news.com/everything-we-know-about-gilroy-garlic-festival-shooting-suspect/5427212/

The suspect, Patrick Crusius, in a deadly mass shooting at a shopping mall in El Paso, Texas, yesterday was widely identified on the internet as a young white man whose social media activity showed support and sympathy for Trump’s apparent white nationalist agenda.

“This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas,” says an anti-immigrant online manifesto by the accused gunman in El Paso.

This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!" Trump once tweeted.

Multiple sources available on the internet.

 

Unless you are some kind of mind reader, you are assuming. These shooters were nut jobs.

 

At least he CAN walk without falling down drunk like Hillary.

 

Regarding the mass murders in eight days, Republicans have joined in a code of silence. They are avoiding the elephant in the room, the President's inflammatory, white supremacist rhetoric.

President Donald Trump: "This is mental illness."

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott: "Prayers for the victims and their families." What a disgraceful comment from the governor of a state that was the victim of Trump's malicious, bigoted rhetoric. It's a bit too late for prayers. 21 are dead.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy: "You can see the actions within video games."

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick: "I see a video game industry that teaches young people to kill."

Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz: "Pray they will bind together." Useless comment.

Vice President Mike Pence: "Praying for the injured and the families." What a joke. They are all a joke. These are the people who govern us? Good Lord.

However, I can see their problem. The leader of their party was instrumental in all this. It is the same problem Trump's fans have on this issue. All they can do is deny reality, lie, and try to waste time.

 

Funny, how Trump's pals keep bringing that up. So what?

Describing four women of color who are members of Congress and known as "The Squad," Trump said, “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”

The point being, our President's heinous rhetoric gives angry young men a green light to deal with people they don't like in any fashion they choose. Three young men made their choices during a span of eight days. Two were white supremacists, and the third was a copycat.

"The gunman who opened fire in Dayton, Ohio, this weekend had an obsession with violence and mass shootings and had expressed a desire to commit a mass shooting, Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl said Tuesday." https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

One mass shooting took place on July 28, another a week later on Aug. 3. Crazed by the two mass shootings, Betts decided it was time and he was fully prepared.

I told you once before, I don't believe in coincidence. Betts chose the fourth for reason. The reasons were his obsession and the immediate precedents.

Trump should not go to El Paso and Dayton tomorrow. The Secret Service must be in a tizzy.

 

Are you defending Trump's rhetoric that immediately preceded the mass murders?

Don't be cute. You know the rhetoric I'm talking about. It is throughout this thread. Just answer the question. Are you defending Trump?

 

Well maybe it is because the left kept claiming that we had two mass shootings by white supremacists and it appeared like that was what you believed. Certainly you were a little reluctant to believe he was a democrat Warren supporter.

Unless you believe every thing is determined in advance,, the world is made up of coincidences.

We should let the secret service worry about that. That is their job.

 

Why would I do that? Whether I like or not he will most likely keep on doing it. Live with it.

 

None of his tweets have anything to do with the shooter.

Trump had nothing to do with these shootings as any and all reasonable people know

Your efforts to connect them are a massive intellectual failure