Trump's communications with a foreign leader sparked whistleblower complaint

A useless one who declared himself AWOL.

Who donates to Democrats and is urging people to vote for that party. Strange for a 'Republican'. The Swamp is bi-partisan.

 

Knock yourselves out... Ukraine apparently is awaiting a formal request from the US to open an investigation... And by formal request, I don't think Rudy in the tapas bar in Madrid counts...

 

Amazing how many basic facts CNN viewers are unaware of.

 

Point well taken.

 

No evidence, nothing official has been released yet. But from what I am hearing, that's what I think happened. Only time will tell.

 

Obama's loyalists were instrumental in illegal abuse of power.In western world you don't abuse the state apparatus for political purposes. Especially not to target your political opponents. They do it in Africa though, not in the western democracies.

 

Sessions is now a "swamp" creature? This is like those stories you hear about when Stalin would have so-and-so killed, and they were one of the strongest original true believers. Sessions was one of the first to come out and give Trump real political support, and he thought he had a moral obligation to recuse himself, which I applaud him for. But he wouldn't do the President's bidding, so of course he's a "swamp creature".

And if these guys are "swamp creatures", what does that say about the stable genius who hired them? Trump seems to make a lot of bad hiring decisions. For which he gets a complete pass, of course. Can you imagine if Clinton's personal lawyer turned on her and implicated her in crimes? OMG! We would, literally, never hear the end of it.

 

Which has nothing to do with the Mueller investigation, which was started by Trump appointee Rod Rosenstein when Trump appointee Sessions recused himself. Trump appointees Chris Wray (FBI) and Bill Barr (DOJ) allowed it to continue.

 

They love him in the Middle East. Dislike him in Europe, but that's understandable. He is demanding better trade terms and he just got all those NATO nations to to promise to put in a hundred billion dollars to NATO. I'm sure they had better use for that money.

 

OK, I'll go along with your determination. Point is -- they spied ILLEGALLY on the man and his people, and they did everything imaginable to try to sabotage his presidency and new administration. I think that's referred to as "murder-in-the-crib". In other countries, conspirators who pull this kind of insidious, treasonous crap are put against a wall and shot....

 

And we haven't... except for the personal lawyer part...

 

Yes we are trying to negotiate how our investigations will interact since their cooperation in any investigation will be vital to the investigation. We do it all the time with international crime why wouldn't the President be talking to the President of Ukraine and those discussions be confidential and privileged, they are of no business to the Congress.

 

Oh sure... that parade for Trump through Teheran is scheduled for any day now... And I don't suppose he's welcome in the capitol city of Yemen either (Yemen City?)

 

Good to know... then just follow the law and release the complaint and it's all confirmed Trump did nothing wrong.... Nothing could be easier...

And then, of course, you have to fire the IG for falsely claiming urgency and credibility...

Also, it's not OUR investigation if it's Ukrainian law(s) that were broken....

 

Which is only a massive plus for Trump and his administration.They were fully cooperative. What preceded the investigation was totally illegal. Gross abuse of power.

 

We haven't heard the last about that investigation on Trump. I think we'll see it was illegal and I believe several are in trouble over it.

 

So that suggests this prosecutor actually needed to be fired, which suggests Biden didn't do it for personal reasons. There's an obvious prima facia conflict of interest, but that doesn't mean there's an actual conflict of interest.

I'm going to withhold judgement on both Trump and Biden until we get the whole story. From what I've seen, both men need to do some explaining.

 

According to Mueller, they were destroying evidence. I can find you the quote in the report if you doubt this.

 

Isn't the complainant the one to bring up the complaint first? Lets hear what Trump did first.

 

Sure they did.... if they had done everything imaginable to sabotage him, he would have been impeached on Al Greens third call for impeachment this year...

The idiot Democrats still insist on playing by the rules and it's killing this country.....

 

Why wasn't charges brought up if destroying evidence? That's right, I forgot Hillary

 

Triggered!

 

THAT should be a giant red flag. Who are the people who have been trying to kill us, and who did kill over 3,000 of us? Europeans or Middle Easterners? I don't want the President to be loved in the Middle East.

And Iran certainly doesn't love Trump. That's a giant powder keg. I don't know how that mess gets resolved peacefully. Neither, apparently, does Trump, who seems to not want to do anything about his BFF getting attacked by Iran. Which tells Iran they have the green light to do pretty much whatever. Just don't kill any Americans.

 

WOW!!! How far behind are you on this story??

Seriously, you are blaming the complainant for what?? Following the whistleblower rules to the letter?? Not holding a press conference and then getting arrested for releasing classified information incorrectly??

Besides, it's all moot now... Trump came out today and said he did nothing wrong, so whew!! Crisis averted...

 

"some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated — including some associated with the Trump Campaign deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long term retention of data or communication records,” the report said. “In such cases the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with the other known facts.”

So no, they weren't cooperative.

I don't know why Mueller didn't press charges. I wasn't impressed by him when he testified. Would you have even tolerated a Democrat special prosecutor investigating a Democrat President? Democrats actually went along with a GOP special counsel investigating a GOP president. I don't think Republicans would have gone along with that. In fact, I'm sure they wouldn't have and wouldn't have trusted any conclusions from such an investigation.