Trump needs to Go

Trumps way may not be perfect

But the obama policy of managed decline that liberals want to return to is even worse

 

This is not about the federal deficit, but the trade deficit. Germany had a trade surplus of $294 billion, that is not an accounting gimmick.

 

To be sure many liberal policies would be a drain on our economy. But looking backwards, as you are, is hardly wise. Besides ~ Obama's policies cannot be faulted, especially given how those policies pulled us up from W's total economical disaster. What's really troubling is that no one, even supposed fiscal conservatives, is pushing effectively toward eliminating our ever-growing deficit. Left and Right wing powers are big time into deficit spending. But Trump's policies seem to be back on the track toward leaving us with, once again, a totally failed economy. And when Trump is gone form office, you know he will ironically bellow out that the failed economy is because he is no longer in power.

 

Obama merely continued the policy of pandering to communist china economically that began under clinton and continued during the bush years

Now Americans have become lazy and have forgotten how to make the thing we need here in America

Trump sees where that is leading

but liberals and globalist republicans are happy to let china take over the world

 

Lacking the ability to come up with a coherent thought - you default to demonization - name calling -and Strawman.

 

Globalism is not a strawman

If you fear the label being applied to you thats your problem

The truth hurts

 

I'm actually Intrigued with what the aftermath that will be if Trump is ousted and the introduction of Reverend Pence, a truly devout President. Animosity within the republican voter base will be at a level never seen before in this country and if the economy slips back to Mr, Obatards era the left WILL need a man like Pence to pray for them

The thing the left aren't considering is what this will do to the current health of the country. There is no doubt this sort of thing will send us in to economic instability especially the foreign markets and when the stock market tanks, and lenders pull back the entire country will automatically blame the leftist party of discordance..

 

We both know nothing will change

Except that the attacks on trump will shift to Pence instead

 

1) what do you mean by "Globalism"
2) how does this label apply to me ?

You have no ability to deal with reality - as per the factual information presented - so you default to mindless gibberish - and name calling - and accusing me of stuff that 1) I don't even know what you are accusing me of 2) you do not support your accusation in any way. 3) you do not state how this relates to the facts that were presented.

 

Oh no, things will change in the hearts and minds of the people.. Sure we see the leftist post their silly poll about how the country is in favor of impeachment, but that's just the leftist sowing seed of discord. The money men in this country, lending institutions will immediately tighten up and foreign traders will surely try and capitalize on it trying to regain what they lost under Trump..

Contrary to Leftist bullshit propaganda, people are doing well at the moment! The taste of opportunity and better pay is still a new feeling for million of Americans, and when that slips away it will be a fresh memory of the life they left only three years ago! Just enough prosperity and time to feel confident enough to buy homes, equipment, start business's and take on debt..

FCK with that, and those people are going to be seriously pissed off

 

There is always to much blame put on W by people unwilling to be honest! That shltstorm was put in motion under Clinton and no one cared to cap the nipples that all the Dems, Repubs and contract/underwriters were syphoning billion off of..

 

Godless libs are praying to their sacred statue of Karl Mark to bring the economy into recession before the 2020 election

 

If you support the trade deficit with china you are a globalist

 

Pence is a True Goblin in sheep's clothing - the man hates the founding principles, and the principles of republicanism and his authoritarian nature makes trump look like Jesus. ... that Pence would be sitting in the President's chair is the best reason not to impeach Trump.

The economy did have a bit of a Trump bump - but, the overall increase was not related to anything Trump did. A President has almost no influence on economy in his first year .. and not near as much as the public credits for a number of years after that.

In Trumps first fiscal year - which starts in October - a year after the election - (so the President has little effect up until that point) we did maintain what was an already good trend. GDP growth continued to increase but not to 6% as Trump prognosticated .. we made it to a little above 3%.

The problem is that this growth was done on the back of a massive deficit spending increase. Any idiot can stimulate an economy with massive increases in credit card spending .. this is like putting nitrous oxide into an engine.

The problem however is that this is short term gain for long term pain. GDP is now down to 2% .... Manufacturing in this nation has slowed dramatically - and the deficit fueled party is is over ... Now we are left to clean up the mess.

 

I get a kick out of the short sightedness I read here dozens of time how the economy is going to collapse in 2020 and so what do the idiots Dems on the hill do, well they "Hope" to impeach the one guy they could blame and "IF" they do and the economy tanks "AS PREDICTED" by them, then the GOP will simply claim they caused it with their impeachment

 

All that may be in your world! But the rest of the country Leftist and Right credit and condemn the President for everything.. You do read this forum, Right

 

So you think a 100 million Chinese making $5 a day are going to buy more US goods if only the Chinese "played fair"? Fantasy land.

 

That is one thing that I agree with and why I don't support impeachment. I want Trump to be thrown out by voters, not congressional Dems. If he is impeached, then it will be just too easy for the GOP to blame the end of the tax cut sugar high economy on the Dems, instead of where the blame belongs, the short-sighted supply side economics of the GOP.

 

What a laughable and mindless definition of "Globalist" - something only a simpleton would take seriously.

Regardless - I don't support trade deficits with China. I do however support Trade with other nations .. if that makes me a globalist - so be it.

If you want to turn the US into some kind of Amish community - where we don't trade with any other nations - you are welcome to your opinion.

 

Impeachment talks came after the latest GDP announcements. Funny how so many Republicans on this site claimed that Obama not rising above 3.0% GDP growth was absolute proof that Obama was the worst President - yet here we have Trump unable to get above 3% GDP growth and falling ... yet those same people consider him the bestest President ever ...

Whatever.

 

Logic eludes man, you sir are a rare find indeed!

 

Even if Trump isn't impeached, they'll blame the Dems - that doesn't change. Never mind that Trump's tax bill high lasted about 10 months and it still didn't increase GDP above 2.9%. And now GDP is falling - and that was before any impeachment proceedings. Economists agree that Trump's trade war has been a drag on world prosperity. But Trump FanBoys pretend roses grow from his ass ... sad.

 

Under Mr Obatard it didn't feel like a recovery.. Under Trump the number clearly show opportunity and personal prosperity, regardless of how this success is credited via party propaganda, the sitting President always get the lions share of it..

 

It understand that "Average Joe" is generally ignorant with respect to the effect of a President on the Economy. Just because the crowd decides to jump off a bridge does not mean I have to

Most do not realize that the President has nothing to do with the budget in the first 8 months of his term .. Feb through Sept.

A good example was the 2009 deficit of 1.4 Trillion dollars. While Obama took office in 2009 - he had nothing to do with this deficit. The mindless idiocy was not just confined to this Forum - almost all of the right wing MSM were attributing the 2009 deficit to Obama .. basically lying their faces off because these folks are not that stupid.

So it is no wonder average Joe is so misinformed.

 

True! But it boils down to fault! The left will take the full weight of the blame if Trump is removed unlike the amount he will be burdened with if he is or has been ousted.. All the left is doing is sacrificing a huge buffer if it all tanks by removing Trump. And if they decide to run the same bullshlt on Pence they will really be exposed for what they are and what they did..