Trump needs to Go

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Giftedone, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    And the blame when it goes south. And given the latest GDP numbers, and flatlined Market values, it is heading south.
     
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  2. Daniel Light

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    The Dems know that Trump won't be convicted by the Senate even if he is impeached. Right now, they are using it just like Republicans used Benghazi to taint the opposition. It's politics as usual and why we really need a viable third party in this country.
     
  3. Daniel Light

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    And by the way - fewer people felt Nixon should have been removed from office at the hight of Watergate proceedings than currently feel that Trump should be removed at the START of these investigations. I don't think it will have the voter impact that some conservatives think it will have as a negative to Democrats. Just say'n.
     
  4. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And then there is this:

    Dollar pinned down after decade-low U.S. manufacturing data
    https://business.financialpost.com/...-down-after-decade-low-u-s-manufacturing-data

    What happened to all these manufacturers that were supposedly coming back to the USA ? - and stories of this great economy that is being created.

    GDP growth has not flatlined .. the latest figure has GDP at 2% which is way down from a brief period around 3.5% - and nowhere close to Trumps 6% projection.

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    This situation is not projected to improve anytime soon and there are many other economic indicators that are looking far less than rosy.

    The Housing Slowdown Is Hitting These Cities Hardest
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2019/06/30/housing-slowdown-cities/#48523eb64e2f

    The Mighty U.S. Consumer Is Struggling
    Recent spending patterns combined with credit-card losses reveal some disturbing trends.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-05-08/the-mighty-u-s-consumer-is-struggling
     
  5. dairyair

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    Sabotage the world's economy's.
    Yes, what a great thing. LOL.
    In this case, I hope he gives in. We don't need a clown like that wrecklessly sabotaging the world. Another Hilter, eh? Only using money as the mass tool of destruction.
    Is that what you're getting at?
     
  6. dairyair

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    Yes, it's a broad term.
    Due to technology, the world has shrunk and is still shrinking fast.
    To me, globalism is the ability to work together, nations, without all kinds of red tape. IE, protectionism. Similar to trade commerce in the USA, between states. A bit extreme, but in that direction.
     
  7. mitchscove

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    You're sounding like the radical leftist who advertises himself as a MODERATE. Radical leftists are easy to find. They make believe they were Americans then they turned left. Leftists are not original at all. That's why montages across the media spectrum show they all colluded, used the same words, same phrases, same everything. Leftism= lack of originality.
     
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    You are wrong, very wrong :) American judge with their wallets, bottom line! Millions "Regardless of who did what", things improved "Dramatically" when and while Trump became President.. Reverse that trend with impeachment "Regardless of how it slows" and the people will blame the party that impeached Trump..

    You make the same mistake the leftist make.. You credit American voters with intelligence and fail to realize simple weekly addition and subtraction is how they judge a President..

    Contrary to belief, what we do here along with all the other eggheads spending their lives in a textual pissing contest with some total anonymous sprite is not how the average American spends their lives.. We are the abnormal and only personal honest defines us here ;)
     
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    Don't be so sure, "Even losers wins sometimes" ;)
     
  10. ButterBalls

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    Doesn't feel that way for most.. The left has a way of living in doom and gloom regardless of how well they are doing.. They are just addicted to drama, simply look at their prime time entertainment on CBS, NBC and ABC.. Even the MSM children's entertainment like cartoon is drama based wussy based girly stuff..
     
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    For sure W called out Congress to do something about the then pending, "shitstorm." But that's all he did. So you are right. NO ONE cared! But, also to be sure, Obama successfully pulled us out of it. Now we are headed full steam ahead back into a new, "shitstorm," with no economic safety valve (see lowest Fed rates ever ~ already implemented [for example]).
     
  12. Giftedone

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    I would agree somewhat but to me the problem with Globalism is the tendency towards usurping of national sovereignty - and thus the sovereignty of the citizens of that nation.
     
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    Agreed ~ but this is not a quick fix, and pulling out of the PTA literally unbridled China's international trade shackles.
     
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    Agreed, but if you pay attention you will read our resident leftist claiming the "Presidents" don't really have much to do with economic health of a country ;)

    But they always have plenty to blame the President for :)
     
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    In a laughable cornucopia of mindless gibberish - none of which relates to my post - you make all kinds of fallacious accusations - but give no substantiation for any of those accusations.

    I realize that you have no ability to respond to the information presented .. and thus have to run to the playground crying and shouting names prior to sticking head deep in the sandbox of denial .. but, at least make some attempt to back up your claims with something.

    I don't mind you calling me names - so long as you provide some justification that backs up your claim. Sitting in the peanut gallery doing nothing but name calling however, is the act of a mindless fool.
     
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    You are right, only problem is working together should REWARD both, and that's something that we haven't seen with out partners in a very long time..
     
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    Why? The notion of a balance of trade is ridiculous. That's as silly as trying to engineer a planned economy. Let trade reach the natural levels dictated by supply and demand. If you are lagging, maybe it's because you have nothing to sell or maybe you're buying too much tat.
    But that's actually irrelevant since the problem with trump is not his economic notions, however right or wrong they may be.
    People are realizing that he is too unfit for office and are putting that ahead of their petty interests.
    When he loses faux news, he's lost his base.
    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/napolit...allusions-to-violence-are-palpably-dangerous/
     
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    You must have misread my post. I have not credited the American voters with intelligence .. I have claimed that the reverse is true - and you can leave your leftist demonizing at the door as I am no leftist. I get way more likes from the far right than I do from the left (mostly from the center though). Leftists tend to not like many of my posts as I regularly slam the left .. Obama, Hillary and so on .. the difference being that my arguments have merit as opposed to many of the arguments coming from the right.

    Some of the rest of your post has some basis in reality - Investor Psychology plays a big role in relation to consumer spending - on this you are correct. Nothing in my post contradicts this claim.

    You are also correct in your pissing contest analogy but, this has nothing to do with anything stated in my post other than supports my claim that the average voter is ignorant.
     
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    I trade labor, material and skill to customers! If I do it for cost how do I pay my living expenses, if I do it for less then my cost then I starve while my customers grow richer.. The idea of trade is to profit, if you're doing to break even you don't grow, do it for nothing and shrink and starve..
     
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    So is that it for you "Likes", pfffffffffffffffff.. And now I'm to take you serious, well I'm not, but I will take you for what YOU think is important ;)
     
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    What are you talking about ? You made a false claim with respect to my post .. I politely corrected you and addressed the rest of your post.

    You were the one who accused me of being a lefty - for no reason other than I presented facts that conflict with your rose colored partisan fantasy world - then you cry and whine when I correct that nonsense name calling strawman .. like some pouting child that has been sent to his room.

    Humor :)
     
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    Solution is simple, vote for someone else in November of 2020,
     
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    Leftists have a monopoly on crying, shouting, and throwing temper tantrums. Look what happened when they lost the 2016 election. Now, leftists are attacking Barr because you're scared to death of the corruption he will uncover. It's the repeatable MO of leftists ,,, it's science
     
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    Only the clueless public slobs who want to continue relying on cheap stuff from china are demanding a quick - and absolutely painless - fix

    I am willing to endure higher prices for products that are made in America
     
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    If forcing the world to be financially independent of us is 'wrecking the worlds economy', than yes, thats what I'm getting at. The American taxpayer has neither the obligation nor even the ability to support the welfare of the rest of the world. We shouldn't be its police and we shouldn't be its sugar daddy.
     
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