Trump needs to Go

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Giftedone, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Mac-7

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    No liberal will admit it but a lifetime of anti American propaganda has convinced them that this country should give all our wealth to the rest of the world
     
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    Nah I was posting to the notion that the quote below means anything to me other than, MOST people that count "Likes" are far more willing to please the crowd then be logically honest and sincere with themselves or in there own beliefs.. Again, this has been my experience as a long time forum lurker.

    Humor :)


     
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    And if they were honest, and simply recognize at this point in history many are just indoctrinated spawn of a 60's chemical brain soaked hippies and excuse themselves from the equation!
     
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    Well said
     
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    That's fine, but most Americans are not so well equipped for enduring (read "high prices") as you say you are. And can you really tell the difference between a UHD television made in China and one made in the USA (besides the prices)? If you ask me it's the U.S.unions and high wages Americans have come to expect, if not demand, which have driven our people out of global competition.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Certainly for the last few years this is true ... since Trump got elected. Prior to that the roles were reversed .. and we had 8 years when the right had the monopoly on generalized whining.. and so the cycle goes.

    but then you go off the farm - and insinuate that I am a one of these crying leftists ... behave yourself - and shoot your arrows straight.

    If you wish to accuse me of something - do feel free. But .. .If you do wish to accuse me... then back it up with something. Por Favor .

    I posted numerous times on the Meuller Clown show .. - have posted evidence that shows his Proven Track Record of scum bucketry .. violation of the principles of justice.... rule of law ... and general sliminess. Heard the left media proclaim this dudes high acolades of integrity.

    I have posted on what a joke Russiagate was... "A Raindrop in the midst of a Hurricane" . Meaning - The influence of Russia on our electoral process - is a raindrop with respect to the hurricane of other foreign influence in our electoral process.

    Can You Dig It :) - the analogy .. .

    So then .. astute Social Conservative that you are .. Tell me what the Hurricane is ? It is not an easy question .. and there are many influences ... foreign influences .. lobby after lobby ... paid influencers... Its their Job ..

    There is a multi Billion dollar business called "Media Relations" this covers everything from advertizing in the media to think tanks and policy analysts. With one sole purpose ...

    That purpose is to try and get you to think something .. or think about something a certain way .. to "influence you". The Propaganda side of Media Relations is huge ... well .. the term "media Relations " was actually substituted for the word propaganda because of some negative Hitler thing. But that is what the science specializes in. Google "Propaganda book Edward Bernay's" He was the fellow who developed and built the industry .. was related to Freud.... El Sigmund.

    Rain Drop - in the midst of a hurricane :)

    But how about ... one of my favorite Topics .. Obama Bashing !

    So we are going to have a contest to see who is the real Republican . and who is the ... RINO

    You give 2 of your best bashes - or even one really good one .. And I will give two of mine.

    The one who has the the best bash .. wins. Feel free to give 3 bashes if you like .. I will restrict myself to 2.

    You are up first :)
     
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    It was barely even a side comment .. and as zero to do with the discussion .. the only reason it came up was my fending off one of your mindless ad hom attacks and name calling. ..

    Then doubling down on the this and building a strawman out of this initially fallacious gibberish .. and build an even bigger fallacy :)

    Please tell us about your studies that show those people that count likes (what ever that means .. as it is a spectrum - so make sure to give a coherent definition) are far more willing to please the crowd .. and how this relates to being logically honest and sincere with themselves and their own beliefs.

    This should be a fun talk .. I like where you have taken this rabbit hole :)

    To Tell us. ... justify your claim.
     
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    so being anti Trump is being anti America. I knew Trump believes that but didn’t think even the Trump supporters were that deluded.
     
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    The difference is more jobs for chinese in china and less jobs for Americans

    Surely you can see the consequences of that
     
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    Do you prefer low wages with poverty and welfare for Americans?
     
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    And what does the 60's, drugs, hippies, warped ideology and indoctrinated spawn have to do with Trump? Their parents were anti American under Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and their spawn were Unamerican under Mr, Obatard and are current just as UnAmerican today. Leftist simply have no love of country or their countrymen they are now simply geared to hate something, anything and just as their parents taught them they will continue to instill hatred in theirs.. Leftist no longer want to be happy!
     
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    Of course they do, it's part of their programming.. Poverty makes their base easy to incite, whereas prosperity loosens their grip on those folks. How else can it be explain, war on poverty began in 1964 "the amount spent is debatable" but the results are not. Nothing has changed, the poverty rate has stayed consistent since the inception under LBJ..

    WHY?
    I believe it's because democrats have lost their values!

    The War on Poverty: 50 years of failure
    This is not even what Democrats then envisioned, it was eventually used as a leash later by Democrat that saw the value in keeping their base enslaved, dependent and addicted to their handlers for subsidies.. Todays Democrats politicians are truly evil, manipulate and heartless slavers that will never relinquish their poverty hold over voters! They will never make opportunity available to them and will do what ever it takes to destroy any person or party that threatens to raise them out of that cesspool!
     
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    You sound like an isolationist who wants it both ways: a victory on the global market BUT without having to compete in a global market. Sorry. Cat's already outta the bag! Wanting Americans employed and off the welfare roles goes without saying. If that's all there is to it then the jobs would never have left to begin with. And it's not just that high tech jobs have been outsourced to China. They've also gone to India. Americans' customer service jobs outsourced to the Philippines and India during the Bush years (Bush actually commended American entrepreneurs and CEOs who did this for their "genius"). And all the Chinese technology, including their military grade product, is simply marginally improved bootlegged American ingenuity. I back anything that brings the jobs home, but all Trump's doing so far is waging a widespread trade war against our allies and competition alike. I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best though.
     
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    The question for me was: "Do you prefer low wages with poverty and welfare for Americans?" And you answered:
    LOL! If only it were that simple. Right? Maybe you're going too deep for me... Hahahah! :)
     
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    The world is intertwined. Any hurt on the world will also be hurt on your neighbor.
    So have at it.
    Welfare of the rest of the world, LOL. We give money to manipulate the rest of the world. They pay.
     
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    Not gonna happen. Other low wage Asian countries will get the mfg jobs.
    You've been told that countless times.
    MFG jobs are low skill. They are not good paying. Unless the unions the RW killed, come back and raise the middle class. Not likely to happen.
     
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    Why, because the dems are being punked by him
     
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    Well that's obvious ;)
     
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    Germany occasionally bails out the others. Greece was a good example. Greece is actually a country that has exceeded its 2% of GDP for defense and is a member of NATO. Unfortunately, they cheated on the amount of debt they were carrying in their reports to Brussels (the EU Hq). It's rumored that the Greeks learned "double bookkeeping" from Goldman Sachs consultants.
     
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    The NATO members have all agreed to spend 2% of their GDP toward defense and to hit that target next year. It was an agreement reached during the Obama administration, at a NATO Summit Meeting in Wales.
     
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    You're right...he thinks he can "renegotiate" our debt, by monetizing the dollar, with artificially low interest rates. I think he's grossly misinterpreted our global influence today vs the post WW II era, when we produced around 50% of EVERYTHING produced globally.
     
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    I dont mind a little competitive advantage when we are not up against state run mercantilism like we see in red china

    You know, wheat from America in exchange for wine from france and so forth

    Just like they draw it up in economic textbooks

    But the commies arent playing by those rules

    As for alternative outsourcing to india or wherever government has the authority under our constitution to manage foreign trade

    Its just that recent swamp rat congresses and globalist presidents have not done so

    We are economically at war with china so if we cant make everthing we need in America at least deny our only serious rival the wealth that manufacturing produces
     
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    Better india which is a democracy instead of a communist dictatorship that wants to rule the world like china does

    As for manufacturing jobs being low skill I dint reaLize that the illiterate kids spilling out of our deep blue liberal public schools were qualified for high tech positions

    As a matter of fact they are not
     
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    So Joe Biden, a rich old white guy, makes sure his son, Hunter, gets his share of white privilege and Trump is the one who needs to go? Oh, the hypocrisy!
     
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    The strident kvetching of Trump bum kissers and their mewling about the majority of Americans who disapprove of their fatass messiah cannot forestall his ineluctable collapse that has now begun.

    The proximate degeneracy is his perverting US foreign policy to serve his personal agenda:
    His ruinous trade war shall hasten the cry baby's departure amidst his hysterics and his cult's keening and ululations.

    Fake Don's absconding will be his single greatest stride in making America great again.
     
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