FBI official investigated for allegedly altering document in 2016 Russia probe

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  1. MrTLegal

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    ...cool? Looks like all of his predictions came true as well.

    Doesnt negate the information contained in my post or my opinion that he will likely not face disbarment, let alone a criminal punishment. Nor does it appear that the Horowitz report is going to find any major or even very significant violations by any of the bogeymen that the trump believes existed.
     
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    Just to be clear, mmngram is referencing why Clinesmith was removed from the Mueller investigation (i.e. the revelation that he had expressed a pretty significant anti-trump bias in text messages), and not any more detail on his actions in relation to the FISA application.

    The reporting that I saw on that front is that Clinesmith altered an email/memo from another individual to make it seem like that individual had adopted opinion which was Clinesmith's own.
     
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    Put into power when Trump failed to maintain a majority in the House.
     
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    I saw that report also.

    I just find it remarkable that so many people, who have contributed to these many proceedings against Trump, have somewhat other than neutral inclinations. It seems rather telling, to me.
     
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    Like I said, I bet Horowitz finds that the FISA warrant and the rest of the Russia investigation was legally justified and largely devoid of any bias or wrongdoing, even if some protocols were not properly followed.

    Hope yall didnt fill up on the popcorn and saved room for Turkey. Happy Thanksgiving.
     
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    Update!

    Here's Clinesmith, the man in question.
    He looks like a deceptive anti-Trump nerd.
    [​IMG]
     
  7. Thought Criminal

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    And they ran on an agenda of working together with Republicans and Trump to get things done.

    They're not happy.
     
  8. MrTLegal

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    Trump did openly suggest that US intelligence agencies were wrong on Russian interference and that they were more akin to Eastern Germany before the fall of the a Berlin wall.
     
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    Are you echoing Schumer?

    Does Trump deserve what he gets for not kowtowing to the intelligence community?
     
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    How can that be when the fisa was based on the Steele dossier that was fake?

    People signed off that the Steele dossier was verified.

    I believe Comey was the culprit.
     
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    Verified means something different than you think when it comes to a FISA warrant.
     
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    OMG. A hoodie.
     
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    :bored:

    The Whole "FISA Thing" has been PROVEN to be just another RW Conspiracy Theory.

    Remember THIS:

    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-...atch-bucket-5-fisa-documents-within-5-6-days/

    ^The RW Must Have Started 20 Threads About It...
    '
    That was 6 MONTHS AGO...:roflol:

    And it turned out to be just ANOTHER RW Tinfoil HAT Nothingburger. :bored:

    Get back to me when anybody is actually Indicted and Arrested.

    Until Then? :bored:
     
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    The Steele dossier explicitly denotes the limits of it's own findings by sorting the allegations into buckets based on the degree of confidence associated with each allegation.

    And the allegations which garnered the most confidence, like the notion that Russia was directed from the highest levels to interfere in the 2016 election with the Express purpose of helping trump, has been confirmed time and again.

    The allegations which garnered the least amount of confidence, like the allegation that Russians have a video of trump watching two hookers pee on a bed, have not been confirmed.
     
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    He got much less than he deserved considering that the investigation into his campaign was not made public until after the election.
     
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    Maybe? Although I would suggest that the vast majority of Democrats were elected into the House on a mandate of holding Trump accountable.
     
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    There you go with that meaningless buzzword, again.

    The Democratics gained their majority by winning with moderate (for Democratics, or at least pretend moderates), who promised to work with the Republicans.
     
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    Nearly every exit poll showed that ~2/3rds of voters made their selection, in part, based on sending Trump a message.
     
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    unlike the right defending Trumps bad deeds, I say if anyone is caught doing bad deeds on either side, glad they are caught

    many republican have been caught breaking the rules, including Comey... and many Trump hires

    Trump breaks the rules and sets the example for everyone else, this is not acceptable, it's not the new normal - Trump is a fluke

    Trumpism must be stopped, regardless if it's the left or the right doing it
     
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    Yes. I will be curious to see. It was reported last friday that it was critical of the process, but not the details and the legality of it.

    I don't hold much credence in it either way as it is being done by Barr and Trumps DOJ. They have already started the selective leaking
     
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    Rogers report on "unmasking" referred to people having access who should not have. No names of any contractors, or any specific charges were ever released. Crowdstrike would be one of THOUSANDS of contractors who may have had access to the data, but that was never released. Your making a great leap not only in saying they were one of the companies, but an even greater leap accusing them of doing something illegal like that

    That said, it in no way points to anything that happened with the DNC server. That just right wing spanking going on. And the FBI didn't ask Crowdstrike to look at the DNC server.
     
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    It will be, and it will be the "center" doing it...
     
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    In part due to the Russia hoax, where they had everybody believing Trump would be found guilty of collusion and impeached......not easy to maintain a majority with that lie hanging over your head.
     
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    How? It means confirmation and corroboration of the core facts that are being presented. Not onkyvdid they FBI know that was not true here they knew they knew they had created false corroboration by feeding it to Micheal Isikoff and then using the fact he printed it as verification and corroboration in the FISA application.
     

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