FBI official investigated for allegedly altering document in 2016 Russia probe

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  1. Paul7

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    Yup, one excuse was as good as another.
     
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    First bold is pure speculation.... I'll wait, if you don't mind..

    Second bold is partisan BS.... Almost zero chance a low level FBI person can damage the country more than a corrupt President... but keep on believing the phone call is the entire story...
     
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    Launching a several year hoax tying the hands of a duly elected POTUS IS damaging the country.
     
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    According to sycophants for The Don he "misspoke"..
     
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    Lol... trump was right all along. Conspiracy theory this. Lol. And i hope they look into justice Scalia claims that he thought he was spied on. You know the spy n chief obama was doing it ..... lock them up...
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-chris-cuomo-andrew-mccabe-james-baker-fbi-fisa

    Conspiracy theory this
    Big mouth Brennan and clapper are silenced . Cant wait to hear what President Trump tweets. Gonna be great ... yea.
     
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    You're killing me! :wall:
     
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    Uh, no, that's your imagination. You can be a foreign policy advisor and not an employee of the campaign.
     
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    Allow me to keep stabbing then.

    “The employee [a low-level FBI lawyer] was forced out of the FBI after the incident was discovered, two U.S. officials said. Horowitz found that the employee erroneously indicated he had documentation to back up a claim he had made in discussions with the Justice Department about the factual basis for the application. He then altered an email to back up that erroneous claim, they said,” the report continues. “That conduct did not alter Horowitz’s finding that the surveillance application of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page had a proper legal and factual basis, the officials said.”
    See above for some additional reporting details.
     
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    Trump has never been right on this issue.
     
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    Not a hoax in any shape or form.
     
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    I bet you that Horowitz concludes that the initial application was justified and legal.
     
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    Well... it won't be long to see what's in the report.
     
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    The lawyer is screwed from a "working for the government" perspective, but given the current reporting, I don't think he will be disbarred, let alone criminally prosecuted.
     
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    Overnight, more details have emerged that show that the lawyer involved — who has not been named — was far down the chain of command and that the document at issue had no bearing on the final result of the investigation.

    "Really really bad stuff and pretty scary."
     
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    We will see who was right , President Trump or MrTLegal.... i know who i would bet on .. i will catch your spin later after you get your orders.
     
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    It is not me that you have to compare Trump against. It is nearly every single professional and journalist who has investigated the issue, including Mr. Horowitz, Durham, and Barr.
     
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    So why didn't Mueller find collusion? He knew there was none soon after he started. It was an investigation in search of a crime, based on hearsay.
     
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    How much altering of a FISA related document is OK?

    This perp worked under Peter Strzok, no surprise.
     
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    1) Even if Mueller did not find criminal versions of collusion, that does not mean that the investigation was a hoax. He was able to fill an entire volume of misdeeds and circumstantial evidence related to Russia' illegal interference in the 2016 election, that the interference was designed to help Donald Trump, and that Trump and numerous other associates encouraged and actively benefited from that interference.
    2) One of the reasons that Mueller did not find a criminal version of collusion is because of limitations imposed by the investigation - specifically the use of encrypted communications by members of Russia and the Trump campaign as well as an inability to obtain sworn interviews from key figures both on the Russia side and from Donald Trump personally.
    3) The investigation resulted in 100+ indictments against dozens of individuals and corporations, including multiple felony convictions against Donald Trump associates.

    Ergo, Not a hoax is any shape or form.
     
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    Depends on how you define OK.

    Is the amount of alteration enough for OK in terms of this particular individual's conduct and whether he will or should face a punishment? No.

    Is the amount of alteration enough for OK in terms of whether the FISA application was ultimately justified and legally based? Looks like a yes, based on the current reporting.
     
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    Fact: The "Deep State" is real.
     
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    Libs are going to defend every page of the FISA report like nothing happened, some guy in the mail room dropped a letter.
     

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