UV student says 'too many white people' at new multicultural center

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  1. LoneStarGal

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    Are police and/or the city council corrupt and profiting off the drug/sex trade themselves. Corrupt police or city leaders? That would be my first assumption. Lots of money to be made by not controlling the violence.
     
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    Like republicans did with family values, integrity, respecting the wishes of the voters, supporting the troops, ethics, honesty, fiscal values, massive bailouts or accountability?

    Yeh, I agree
     
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    The Egyptians enslaving the Jews? o_O

    Wasn't there a black slave trade in Africa for centuries with wealthy Africans owning poor Africans (as well as other countries with the wealthy essentially owning the poor), then when the imperial colonialists started exploring the globe the Africans found a lucrative market? I'm no historian, so I'm asking, but that's my foggy memory of the "whole slavery experiment".
     
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    And might I add the first legal slaveowner in the USA was Anthony Johnson. A black man who sued for the right to keep his indentured servants indefinitely.
     
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    What voice of any matter on the right is calling for the elimination of the Civil Rights Act?
     
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    Mine were Irish and yes they had to fight to be accepted and gain their rights........and they were white.
     
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    Any country that practiced slavery, at least in the modern era, has a black mark on its record. They shouldn't have done it. They knew better. Which is why they ended up abolishing it.

    We were late to the abolition party, and when we elected a guy who just wanted to restrict slavery, the entire country literally fell apart. And it's not like the former slaves rode off into the sunset after they were free. It was another hundred years after the war before we stopped "separate but equal". Another black mark against us.

    "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!" There are people alive today who remember that. I'd say America has some more atoning to do.
     
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    Is this?

    "If ya'll didn't know, this is MSC and frankly there are just too many black people in here and this is a space for white prople" she said. "So just be really cognizant of the space that you're taking up because it does make some of us white people uncomfortable when we see too many black people in here."
     
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    I remember when a Democrat ran on that wht do I have to atone for?
     
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    No, it isn’t

    Racist — yes

    Hate speech is something that encourages violence. Your hypothetical doesn’t do that.
     
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    I would say it fits the defintion

    hate speech
    noun
    1. abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation.
      "we don't tolerate any form of hate speech"
    I would say it would be abusive and expresses a prejudice

    And racist speech towards other students should get the student at the least reprimanded by the school don't you think?
     
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    I don’t see it as abusive or threatening. Did you feel abused or threatened by her little racist declaration?

    The school already said her opinion doesn’t represent the school and the center is open to all.

    If she would have been screaming or calling for them to be harmed in any way I would absolutely agree with her expulsion and possibly being charged depending on the level she took it. She expressed an opinion — that isn’t hate speech (legally — in my opinion [I am not an attorney])
     
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    Incorrect - I said the highest rate is in the Americas. That includes North and South America, not just the USA. Look up the global homicide rate. The fact remains that the Americas are not Africa. If blacks had the propensity for violence that you describe, Africa would have the highest rate. It does not, so your claim about blacks being more violent than all other races and your belief that there are genetic reasons are false.

     
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    I judge people based on what they do and say. You're drawing sweeping conclusions about a race of people based on a very small number, knowing that most of them are "fine" as you described. Click on the United Nations Global Link from the Wikipedia source that you posted and you'll see that the Americas has the highest rate NOT that continent full of black people. It's the UNODC Global Study https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate.

     
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    They most certainly are not false.

    https://africatimes.com/2019/07/08/report-african-homicide-rate-far-higher-than-global-average/

    You wanna try again?
     
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    The America’s have the highest rate because of central and South America drug wars. They’re constantly at war with one another. You can’t compare countries in an active war zone with those supposedly at peace.
     
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    War only occurs when people are being violent. So, if you say there are fewer wars in Africa now, you're still proving my point. Also, using your logic you can't compare a percentage in U.S. cities that's inflated by drug wars with the bulk of the black population.

     
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    There’s no drug war in the us. At least not an active population of people at war against the government who are engaging in terrorism. That’s incredibly dishonest.

    But regardless it doesn’t address the issue. Blacks AT EVERY LEVEL OF INCOME commit a disproportionate level of violent crime within that income level than their peers.
     
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    Get real, what do you think gang members are killing each other over? You're trying to hard and won't accept the reality that the black continent doesn't have the highest rate globally. I have made my point and have more important things to do.

     
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    It doesn’t matter if it’s the highest. You’re ALWAYS going to have more murder in a war zone. The point it’s making is that ON AVERAGE Africa is much higher than the average rate of violent crime across the world. ESPECIALLY when compared to white and Asian countries.
     
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    The same thing they were killing each other over BEFORE the “war on drugs” started. When the statistics were still disproportionately high. Your argument does not hold water. Of course those based on political correctness rarely do.
     
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    Sorry but gangs terrorize neighborhoods, creating war zones. If you don't want to count wars then you should eliminate any black on black shootings that are over money related to the sale of drugs. Anyway, I have to go.

     
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    Well when you get back maybe you can tell me why the black population in Canada and the UK and France are all disproportionately violent as well.
     
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    Actually, making a joke to point out a serious problem. We should not be treating people differently based on the color of their skin, or their gender, their sexual preference....whatever. We are all human beings, and in this case, they are all STUDENTS. There's no problem with clubs that are based on interests, rather than racial or physical characteristics. But IMO, it's stupid to try to correct a perceived problem of discrimination and segregation by excluding others based upon those same things. As far as I'm concerned, at the start of the school year, line all the students (and faculty for that matter), strip 'em down and paint them all SMURF BLUE. Maybe then they'll figure out they're all STUDENTS, there for an education, and everyone should be welcome everywhere on campus, and if anyone is uncomfortable associating with others because of the color of their skin, that's their own personal problem.
     

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