UV student says 'too many white people' at new multicultural center

It's not because they are black though.

Slavery only ended about 160 years ago and blacks were not given equal rights legally until about 60 years ago. That isn't a long time. President Johnson (who was a raging racist) designed a program to keep blacks dependent under the guise of "social welfare" and eugenicist Margaret Sanger pushed for the abortion industry to keep their numbers low. Government-sponsored segregation forced blacks to "aggregate" (to use your word) into slums. Current welfare laws won't provide child credits if there is a man living under the roof, so the government keeps single mothers dependent and splits the family unit, which is not healthy.

If the government is giving you meager scraps, but you can make six-figures tax free in a gang trading in drugs and prostitution, then your "job" is in an industry which is going to be ridden with violent crime. It's risky, but pays well and gives you lots of independence and the freedom to make your own laws (by being lawless). Why would you have any incentive to start at a minimum wage retail job, get an education, and work your way up?

It's also an error to stereotype blacks as an "aggregate". The majority of blacks in our crime-ridden inner cities are law abiding citizens just trying to get a leg up in life and stressing the importance and value of education in their children to help them succeed. Just like the rest of us. A small number of criminal gang members working in these cities can cause an outsized amount of crime and violence.

The question is, "Why aren't the city Mayors doing anything about the situation in their own cities?" There are better-run cities with higher-than-average black populations in America which do not have the same crime levels as the handful of cities which do.

 

The Caucasian students should start filling the center now.

 

Well I think it’s a combination. It’s certainly a culture issue but I think, speaking from a purely anthropological perspective, negroids are more prone to violent behavior than their caucasoid or mongoloid peers. This is derived from a combination of evolutionary differences and the ancient history of slavery in abundance in Africa. For someone to say that a group can evolve so independently of another group that their skin pigmentation, their skull size, brain size, musculoskeletal structure, susceptibilities and immunities to certain diseases are all different and yet they couldn’t have evolved different in regards to their propensity to violence, rates of intelligence and mental acuity is simply illogical.

It doesn’t mean they’re worse people than their counterparts, just different.

To highlight a couple of reasons I feel this way.

First of all we have all sorts of populations that have undergone extensive oppression and even genocide to levels far greater than what the black population suffered. And yet we don’t see that grossly disproportionate level of violent crime within those groups as we do blacks. Take for instance the Native American population or the Jewish population.

Second of all, the idea that the culture in the United States has caused this level of violence doesn’t explain why in EVERY nation in which violent crime and race are calculated, the black population ALWAYS commits a disproportionate level of violent crime.

Third, as I pointed out earlier, within EVERY level of income blacks commit a disproportionate level of violent crime than their population within that income level would indicate.

Therefore to blame poverty and culture as the sole contributors to their violent behavior seems to not substantiate the evidence imo

Again, because I know someone is going to call me a racist for it. This does not mean that whites are better than blacks. We have our own problems. It’s just truth. We are inherently and evolutionarily different.

 

I don't feel under attack because of my skin color. Maybe because in my late 20's, I moved myself out of an area which was largely racist to a city which is more libertarian, multi-cultural and open minded. I don't see some broad-scale race war infecting the country, as much as I think there are pockets of racism existing in white communities, black communities, Latino communities, Asian communities, and Muslim communities. It seems like most people prefer separatism and I am in the minority by choosing to enjoy a variety of people and ideas as individual human beings.

Anyway, where you live and more so who you associate with will impact your personal perceptions of racism in America. I have insulated myself and my perceptions by choosing a circle of friends who are "like me" and value people based on individualism, thoughtfulness, sense of humor, and respect for others' rights and opinions. I'm sure I could find some extremist friends (left or right) in my city and be worked up and angry all the time, but I choose to be around people who are certainly opinionated, but more laid back about this crazy world we live in.

Perhaps you live in a community which has a long-running self-perpetuated race war going on so you think the entire country is that way?

 

Ask those multicultural people you hang out with if they feel as though it’s acceptable that our government provides tax credits to businesses for hiring minorities and not whites and tell me what they say.

Go to your local college and ask them what they think about the founding of this country. See if they call it a good thing or imperialism and white people oppressing others.

Tell me if they advocate for policy to benefit the minority over the majority.

Bring up ANY accomplishment by the white race and ask their opinion on it. If they don’t call YOU a racist for even suggesting such an egregious concept as whites actually doing something good in the aggregate... Then come back and tell me they’re not racist.

 

~ I believe they just don't care. There is no incentive to try. Perhaps because the participation in vote count in this group is low. For the most part political hacks that ignore constituents feel entitled to do so.

 

Rather than try to address each of your points, I will just say that I generally disagree with them.

I was raised in a sheltered and over-protected household, going to church on Sunday singing, "Red and Yelllow, Black and White, we're all children in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world." Call me a Pollyanna or naïve if you'd like, but that attitude has stuck with me my entire life, even after maturing enough to realize that many self-proclaimed "Christians, Jews, and Muslims" are hypocrites. After the flood, we all descended from Moses and his children. Cultures and races separated after mankind's arrogance over the Tower of Babel. We all share a common family and ancestry (if you believe in one of the Abrahamic religions).

 

Violent crime like homicide is low across all racial groups. In 2018, the U.S. population was around 320,000,000. One percent of that number is 3,200,000. The U.S. had around 16,000 murders and non-negligent homicides in 2018.

Doing the math shows that even if blacks committed 50 percent of the murders, a small number of murders are being committed. There were around 40,000,000 blacks. 16,000 is less than half of 1 percent of 40,000,000 and blacks are responsible for 8 thousand (50 percent) of these homicides. More than 99 percent of blacks were not responsible.

 

* Noah

 

That’s all fine and dandy but the murder rate should be far lower. And not just murder. Blacks are overrepresented in literally EVERY violent crime that we keep track of. Whereas not ONE other race is overrepresented in even ONE category of violent crime.

Remember blacks represent less than 13% of the total population and yet they commit:

Murder 53.1%
Rape. 28.7%
Robbery 54.3%
Aggravated assault 33.5%
Burglary 29.8%
Violent Arson 37.5%

If we removed the black population of 13% from the total populous and we removed their level of violent crime from the statistics. Our murder rate would be comparable to every other first world nation and in fact less than most. Certainly less than Africa. Our gun crime rate would be comparable. All because of a hyperviolent minority of the black population.

 

Go to your local university and ask why they automatically add 200+ points to SAT scores of black applicants for admission regardless of their educational background.

 

If I asked my friends those questions they would most certainly have a variety of different answers and opinions, and we would respect each others opinions even while disagreeing. That type of personality is who I chose to associate with. We're opinionated, but not "confrontational" and we don't engage in debate to "win", but to share opinions.

My friends know I'm a conservative and they don't hate me, because I'm a nice person and I don't hate them for being who they are. I have one Mexican-American friend who has a duel citizenship in the U.S. and Mexico who hates Trump and a white friend who wears an Alex Jones cap and thinks we should ban all immigrants 100%. The three of us were sitting together one day, talking immigration and politics over a beer and had a really interesting conversation (to put it mildly) and still were able to laugh off our differences and buy each other another round. I have a good female friend who is black and dates a white guy. Her aunt won't let him in her house because he's white. We talk about openly about race relations quite a lot, but mainly just laugh and have a good time enjoying each other's company.

I simply have a different life experience than you have and I'm not going to go looking for confrontation when it's unnecessary. My friends prefer peace and unity.

 

Hahaha (on me). Thank you. Need. more. coffee.

 

Who owns most of the wealth globally? Whites are making out well there, aren't they? Everyone should be able to form any cultural group that they want, as long as they're not proxy groups for hate and oppression and even these groups exist. In the U.S., I agree with the lady from Texas that there probably isn't much demand for those groups for reasons that were already mentioned.

 

I know. I don't know any way around it other than to pretend there's no problem.

Or to pretend one racial group is inherently more violent than the other, which is totally stupid.

And if the dominant culture does NOTHING to try and solve a problem that's still around from back when when they ENSLAVED the minority culture, that's not going to breed contempt? Sure it is.

And we haven't even gotten into the moral aspects of it all. You think it's right to take an entire group, enslave them, lynch them, rape them, brutalize them, freeze them out of the political process, give them equal civil rights only in recent history, and then tell them, "you're on your own now. Sorry about all that." That's wrong, on a lot of levels.

 

If you have a problem with groups committing disproportiante violence, your problem isn't with blacks, it's with black men. Which means your problem isn't with black men, but men in general, because compared to women, we are all very very violent people. So, do you plan on segregating yourself from your own gender? Or was the "violence" angle just a convenient excuse to hate on blacks?

And remind me again, who started WW1. Blacks was it? The Civil War? Blacks? WW2. Blacks? Oh, that's right. That was all white people, wasn't it. Now, which race is it you think is so violent?

 

She needs to receive mandatory counselling over her bigotry and racism.

 

But WE didn’t do it. And moreover the VAST majority of them didn’t have to live through it.

Why should we be punished for something we never did and they be compensated for something they never even had to endure?

 

GASP! 'Racism' is an extremely overused term after eight years of the political Left using it for everything under the sun during the Obama administration years? Say it ain't so! Now we are to believe that racism is not hate speech just because it is being done by a . . . student in possession of a Politically Correct skin tone and politics?

 

I agree, somewhat. I would change it so instead of affirmative action, more tax dollars go to predominately minority places: inner city schools, hospitals, jobs programs, etc. But then, you're just going to claim you're being punished because that means LESS tax dollars going to rural areas, that are hurting just as badly. And you're right. It's not fair to rural whites.

The situation we're in is a catastrophe. There's nothing you can do that doesn't piss someone off. But let me remind you who decided to start this whole slavery experiment: OUR culture. It wasn't us, personally, but it certainly was our ancestors. For ****'s sake, my dad is from Mississippi. My family fought for the South. If I can help erase that stain by sending a few more tax dollar to minorities, sign me up.

 

Her remark does not fit the legal requirements of “hate speech”.

 

Since when does the political Left worry about technicalities when declaring something hate speech? Oh wait . . . ideology and political affiliation . . . matters. The thing is that after eight years of methodical treatment on these issues during the Obama years there is NOTHING that any Left of Center person can do to bring meaning to THEIR vision of what is or is not racism or hate speech. That ideological boat left the political dock in that regard long, long ago.

 

Your statement about the murder rate in Africa irrevocably refutes you. You didn't research your own assertion. Africa doesn't have the highest murder rate. The highest murder rate exists in the Americas.

You also can't reasonably make the argument that blacks are inherently more homicidal because if there were an inherent malady, 99 percent wouldn't be unaffected, as I demonstrated with the yearly murder number.

I could do a breakdown for the other categories but I expect the results to make the same general point. Some people try to obfuscate reality, by mentioning the murder percentage while omitting that more than 99 percent of blacks weren't part of that statistic. You can't justify your position. There is no inherent racial propensity for violent crime. Pseudoscience eugenics is quackery.

 

First of all, I’m not sure if you’re just making stuff up or you know and you’re not stating the truth.

America’s per capita intentional homicide rate is 5.3/100,000. Most of Africa is far above that. Source:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Remove the black populations murder rate in America and it drops SIGNIFICANTLY. It in fact halves itself. Making it closer to 2.5 (Actually lower than that because we only removed 13% of the population and yet we removed 50% of the murder).Well below nearly all African countries.

I didn’t say they were inherently homicidal. I said they’re more prone to violence. The statistics in EVERY country where it’s recorded backs me up on that.

The facts are the caucasoid and mongoloids murder rates are FAR below the negroid murder rates. Simply asserting it isn’t true because most of them don’t commit violent crime doesn’t change the propensity to do so within each group. And COMPARATIVELY the black populations rate of violence FAR outpaces everyone else.

 

One other thing. At the HEIGHT of slavery in America less than 2% of white Americans owned slaves. So can I use your logic and state that white people as an aggregate cannot be blamed for the actions of the minority? Or does that only work for black people?