Justifiable Homicide and defensive use of guns.

Really, how about this guy?

Illinois Man Sentenced for Production of Child Pornography

According to admissions made as part of his guilty plea, Watson came to the attention of the Bloomington Police Department while home on leave from active duty in the U.S. Navy. Information from an acquaintance of Watson’s led police officers to discover sexually explicit pictures Watson had taken of a 6-year-old boy on Watson’s cellphone, as well as other child pornography images. Watson was subsequently interrogated by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) and admitted to possessing, distributing and producing child pornography. A forensic examination of his electronic media subsequently revealed that he had communicated with and received sexually explicit images from other minors via the internet.


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/illinois-man-sentenced-production-child-pornography

 

Self harm is a right.

 

Guns are rarely used for destructive ends.

 

There are few individuals that commit truly evil acts. They are a tiny majority. But they make most News.

One Joker makes more news then a million normal humans.

 

Suicide is as wrong as murder.

 

Explain why such a belief is had without defaulting to discussion about religion. Do not bring up the discussion of sin to justify the position held on the part of yourself.

 

Explain why Germany’s high court just ruled prohibitions again assisted suicide is unconstitutional and it being legal in many countries and US states, most of which have majority populations of Christians.

 

Can you even point out the nation of Scandinavia on the world map?

 

Exactly. I would also like to point out that a gun was not designed for suicide. Something that's designed for suicide would be Dr. Kevorkian's suicide machines.

 

Because these legal bodies are neither religious nor ethical.

 

Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark. They have smaller population then the nation of California.

 

There is nothing ethical about forcing an individual to continue existing when they have no desire to do such of their own free will.

 

Aside from that being your opinion, in this country, law is not supposed to be influenced by Religious doctrine. Further, under the Constitution, one of it’s primary tenants is of individual liberty and protection of an individual’s right to property, of which life is one. And, under, the 1st amendment the government is prohibited from making law based on Religious criteria.
People are not property of the state (slaves). As for ethics, we could engage in a long debate on that topic. But among mine, is I do not have the right to tell what to do with yours nor you me. You life is yours, subject to your beliefs and mine life is subject to mine. Every one, even in a police state, has at minimum, control over their life... no state can stop someone determined to end theirs.
Most religions have some narrative about what happen upon death. If you choose to believe, it’s your choice.... not mine. Everyone dies, and by living, you have already committed to death. Some get there faster than others, but everyone has some level of control, and everyday personal decisions, such as what you learn, eat, risks you take, all determine your odds of going quickly or not. In the perspective of forever, your lifetime is a blip in the grand view, so even in the frame of reference of interpreting the age of the known universe, what is one day, one year, or even one lifetime?
As for me, I believe death will be as I was, before birth. I have no fear of death; just curiosity, one that will be revealed, or not. At some point in the future, I may make a decision, as I have all my life on how to live, as to how I will choose to die, a decision I will make that is a product of the way I have chosen to live. It won’t be a product of the belief’s of others, but of mine and of the ethics, values, and beliefs I have chosen to abide by.

 

All Humans will exist forever.

According to Judaism, suicides will suffer for some time.

 

About 85% of people in USA believe that All Humans will exist eternally.

Suicide is an extremely bad choice. US Government already bans fentanyl.

 

Depends on how you define ‘human’.
What defines the human species and an individual as belonging to that species is a man made zoological hierarchical system of taxonomy based on anatomy invented by Carl Linnaeus in the 18th century. After death the physiological expression anatomy of that identifies a human as belonging to the Hominoidea Family will eventually cease to exist in a form that can be defined as human with the Linnaeus system of classification. If you believe in physics, the elements that constitute the physical elements of ‘the animal’ will be transformed into the basic building blocks of physical reality, in a sense recycled, by the fundamental physical forces governing the universe. As for what makes you you, your thoughts and memories, do you think they will continue somehow? As human? Wishful...hopeful thinking I’d say. Doesn’t make it so.
As for fentanyl, what has that to do with the discussion?
As for any % believing anything, I don’t arrange my belief’s on the belief’s of others. I tend to be what some might refer to, in the line of thinking of René Descartes, a Cartesian Skeptic. And with religion and following the reputed revelation of others, more aligned with the thinking of Thomas Paine as conveyed in his essay on the topic published in 1794,
http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1786-1800/thomas-paine-the-age-of-reason/part-first.php
I give as much credibility to Christian, Judaism or Islamic doctrine as I do that of the ancient Maya religious belief in their Gods who believe that in the worship of their Gods the highest level of worship was blood and sacrifice, a belief not unlike that of Christians that believe their God sacrificed his son in blood and that the highest path to salvation lies in being martyred.
Believe what you wish... you are free to do so under our Constitution, as am I.

 

Off topic and irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

 

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
Murder Victims
by Weapon, 2014–2018

Weapons 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Total 12,278 13,780 15,318 15,195 14,123
Total firearms: 7,803 9,103 10,372 11,006 10,265
Handguns 5,342 6,176 6,762 7,051 6,603
Rifles 235 215 300 390 297
Shotguns 238 247 247 264 235
Other guns 88 151 172 180 167
Firearms, type not stated 1,900 2,314 2,891 3,121 2,963
Knives or cutting instruments 1,545 1,525 1,558 1,609 1,515
Blunt objects (clubs, Hammers, etc.) 431 436 464 472 443
Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.) 668 647 664 710 672
Poison 9 8 12 15 5
Explosives 6 1 1 0 4
Fire 55 63 78 96 72
Narcotics 70 69 118 110 78
Drowning 12 12 9 8 9
Strangulation 84 96 97 89 70
Asphyxiation 93 105 92 111 90
Other weapons or weapons not stated 1,502 1,715 1,853 969 900

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

Of all the firearm murders in 2018 (10,265), only 297 were from rifles. And it is rifles that they first want to "regulate"/take.

 

Very incorrect as well.

In fact, according to a 2013 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, almost all national studies of defensive gun uses have found that firearms are used in self-defense between 500,000 and 3 million times every year in the United States.

That greatly exceeds the criminal use of firearms, proving once again you have no clue of what you are posting.

 

He, like many anti gun advocates, tend to cite figures of justifiable homicides in their argument, and basically use that for the basis for defining self defense uses of a gun and the numbers in instances. Yet missed are those numbers where a gun is not discharged, and nobody dies... it ignores the deterrent effect of guns with crime and all those instances where a gun’s prevents a violent attack without discharging it... something the 2013 CDC’s gun study report noted. How many armed car robberies are prevented by the presence of armed guards, or violent attacks that are prevented by the suspicion the a prospective victim or others nearby might be armed.

 

We do not know how many of these self defenses are real. Only homicide and injuries are documented.

 

Most Americans believe that Humans have unique souls unlike animals.

 

Indeed, most murders are committed by guns.

 

Then why do so many human individuals choose to conduct themselves in a manner that is indistinguishable from rabid, violent animals?

 

Meaningless and irrelevant. Murder is not a legitimate, legal use of firearms. Nor are firearms going to cease either existing or being available to anyone and/or everyone who wishes to have one. Therefore stop focusing on firearms as if they were a problem that can be addressed, and instead focus on the individuals that knowingly misuse them for the purpose of committing harm to others.