Justifiable Homicide and defensive use of guns.

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    A guy from my neighborhood got hit by a train...he survived. He had brain damage and walked with severe limp but he did survive. Not saying it happens often but to say it’s a “flat out lie” that someone can survive getting hit by a train is incorrect.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/listve...actually-survived-getting-hit-by-a-train/amp/
     
  2. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The majority of people hit by trains do not survive, yes like all collisions their will be exceptions, but they are rare and commonly leave the survivor basically a vegetable.
     
  3. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Such logic simply scares me. All Humans are created equal.
     
  4. CCitizen

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    Almost all Jews, Christians and Muslims disagree 100%. Self-harm is not a right.
     
  5. M.A. Survivalist

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    In the USA it is. Just look at how many people do stuff that's harmful to themselves.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Yep, look at how many people take the slow path of suicide, smoking, obesity, risky behavior, and ... I is one of the consequences of liberty; you are free to kill kill yourself a million different ways and pretend you aren’t.
     
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  7. Well Bonded

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    But not all stay that way, many turn into animals with no respect for the lives of others, as such they do not deserve to live amongst the law abiding.
     
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    Totally false.
     
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    Try explaining that to an 11 year old girl who was forced to give birth in her parents bath tub.

    St. Charles, MO – Police have arrested the parents and 17-year-old brother of an 11-year-old girl who gave birth in her family’s bathtub.

    The investigation into the family began on Feb. 11 when Francisco Javier Gonzalez-Lopez – an illegal immigrant who was previously deported from the United States – went to the hospital with a newborn baby, The Blaze reported.

    The child, who was born prematurely, had a body temperature of just 90 degrees, and the umbilical cord and placenta were still attached.

    Gonzalez-Lopez initially claimed that he was the father of the infant and that the child’s mother – his mistress – had left the baby on his doorstep, The Independent reported.

    Upon further questioning by police, Gonzalez-Lopez ultimately admitted that his 17-year-old son had impregnated his pre-teen daughter, and that the baby belonged to her, according to The Blaze.

    The couple’s son, identified as Norvin Lopez-Cante, told police that he raped his younger sister about 100 times but claimed he did not realize she had become pregnant, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

    That Sir is not a equally created human, that teenager is a total animal who needs to be put down or at least castrated and locked up forever.

    https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesma...gives-birth-in-bathtub-cnUi1GssYEu-uxOx2m1Xhw
     
  10. Well Bonded

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    Really?

    Explain this please.

    Istishhad (Arabic: استشهاد‎) is the Arabic word for "martyrdom", "death of a martyr", or "heroic death". In recent years the term has been said to "emphasize... heroism in the act of sacrifice" rather than "victimization", and has "developed...into a military and political strategy", often called "martyrdom operations". One who martyrs themselves is given the honorific shahid.

    When the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas first carried out suicide attacks – involved strapping the body of the mission carrier with explosives – in the Israeli-inhabited towns of Afula and Khidara in the spring of 1994, it "described these operations as `amaliyat istishhadiya (martyrdom operations)" rather than the more secular a'maliyat fida'iyah (self-sacrifice operations). The term 'amaliyat istishhadiya has caught on and "today, istishhad is the most frequently used term to refer to acts of sacrifice in the Palestinian resistance and is used by Islamic, secular, and Marxist groups alike"

    General Statistics for suicide attacks in 22 conflicts from 1982 to late 2015, total attacks 4421, total deaths 43796, total wounded 112003.

    It seems you really understand very little about the real world, when it comes to religions and suicide.
     
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    The state of California disagrees with such a statement, as it is actively fueling and enabling heroin-type addictions.
     
  12. CCitizen

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    I stand corrected. Not in anything I posted here, but in my overeating lifestyle.
     
  13. CCitizen

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    About 5% of all men and 0.6% of all women become really violent criminals during their lifetimes. That is not many. Also, even these people mostly become what they are because they suffered a lot. Most violent criminals are reformed. Very very few people are truly evil.
     
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    USA inflicted about 2.5 million civilian losses (total for two wars) on North Korea and Southeast Asia. Very few Muslims commit terrorist acts.
     
  15. CCitizen

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    I guess there are very very few people who are truly evil. But normal people do not make the news. Thus news consumers see much more evil then there is in ordinary life.
     
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    You are totally incorrect over 40% of violent criminals, once released, go on to commit more violent crimes and end up back in prison.

    And all of them are truly evil.
     
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    Truly evil criminals are rare. But they do make most news.
     
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    Too many of them commit acts of violence and the fact that those Muslims who don't refuse to condemn those who do commit terrorist acts speaks volumes of their support of terrorism.

    Fact is many, Muslims celebrate when another Muslim commits an act of terrorism, their religion is one of the few left that still has not reformed itself and taken a stance that killing innocent people of other religions is a sin, and should be condemned.
     
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    False, the actual numbers do not back up your claim.
     
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  20. M.A. Survivalist

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    I thought self harm wasn't a right, according to you.
     
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    About 9% of Muslims justify terrorism (PEW poll). Most Americans supported bombing during Korean War and Vietnam War.
     
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    I will try to stop overeating. I weigh 155 kg.
     
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    The current population of the united states is estimated at being three hundred and thirty million individuals. Five percent of that amount would be approximately sixteen and one half million. Assuming an equal divide between the two genders, that is over eight million violent male individuals currently in the united states. That is approximately one hundred and sixty five thousand violent male individuals for every state. Those are hardly statistics that would amount to being comforting, as it only takes a single individual to engage in mass murder and kill dozens if not hundreds of innocent bystanders.

    There are individual in the real world who are so devoid of any legitimate merit in existing, they are not even worth the value of their vital organs on the black market. No amount of whining about the perceived lack of self-worth is going to serve to change such a fact.

    If there is truly a legitimate desire on the part of yourself to amount to something or worth, give consideration to others about how to benefit them the most, rather than worrying about being taken care of by others.
     
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    The poll only polled Muslims in the U.S. as such it is useless, worldwide the number is more like 90% because terrorism and death to those who do not believe is required by their religion, failing to do such can and is often punished by death to the non-believing infidel.

    Yea right, that's why people showed their support for the Vietnam war by spitting on our returning troops and calling the baby killers.

    You really do not understand the history behind the horror of serving in Vietnam, or how useless that war was, as such you need to put a lid on your totally false comments before insulting any more of the veterans who fought there.
     
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    Who cares, that is your problem, if you want to commit suicide by morbid obesity, that's your choice.

    And guess what, you don't need a gun to do so.
     

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