Biden may beat trump

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  1. Quasar44

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    You know they will have tens of thousands of illegals voting .
    You know that many folks in the upper mid west will prefer the senile Biden over the brash trump !
    Folks will feel sorry for demented senile Biden because he talks soft and slow

    I am very worried
    Bernie is gone and he could win too against trump
     
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    After 2016, it would be extremely foolish to call any political outcome completely impossible (ie anything could happen), but from where I sit today, I think President Trump is a modest favorite for re-election.
     
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    After 2016, anything is possible.

    There are probably better odds for a 300+ Electoral Vote Win for Biden.
     
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    As my grandmother used to say, "If you can do something about it, do it. If you can't then worry won't help." Thanks to her I have never worried about an election. I just see them as entertainment.
     
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    Watch who the VP choice will be, that is who Dems will be voting for. Biden is not fit to be elected and if he is it will just be a stalking horse for his ticket mate. He has dementia that is probably more advanced than most think and will simply not last 4 years.
     
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    I think the debates will be very important. Biden is going to have a very difficult time on a stage for several hours with Trump. There will not be others up there to distract. It will be just the two of them. Biden is doomed if he can't remember what state he is in, what day of the week it is, what office he is running for and the difference between his mother and sister.
     
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    If he can turn out the 'Pelosi coalition' of black voters, suburban college educated voters and women, along with a decent chunk of the Latino vote and at least stay competitive with the white working class then he has a shot. Tuesday showed that people from most of those groups were prepared to come out in numbers to vote for him. Replicate that in November and Trump is in trouble. Young voters will have to work out what is more important, their feelings or getting right of Trump.

    Of course, it is a long way until then and Biden is a deeply flawed candidate, but at least it seems possible.
     
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    I wonder if flashing all that socialism and raising expectations and then reverting to the old guard Party will backfire? Is this an attempt to elect a woman by slight of hand? The game is afoot.
     
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    The only people who will vote for Trump at this point are dyed-in-wool Trumpers. He's alienated everyone else.

    The first time he comes up with the "United States of Yeshua...." I think the debates are over.
     
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    Same was said in 2016....yet here we are.
     
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    A valid caution.

    Despite the consistent, relentless, public disapproval of Trump in poll after poll, despite the demographic progress since 2016 when 2.9 million more Americans voted for Trump's opponent - the increase of younger, more diverse, better-educated Americans, despite the motivated participation of women, particularly better-educated White suburban women disgusted with Trump, and despite the desire to restore traditional American values, to "Return to Normalcy," there is a fanatical element who are hellbent on enduring four more years of Trumpery that cannot be ignored.

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    What a silly concern. Truth is that Trump is q really good President and that is what will get him a second term
     
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    ah... my Monday morning comedy break with the usual comedians.
     
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    Looking at it that way, I think is a dream or looking at it though very deep blue colored glasses. There has been some pretty huge shifts from the 2016 to what may be the way people vote in 2020. Looking at a recent YouGov poll here are some of the changes. Trump vs. the generic Democratic candidate


    Overall, 2016 48-46 Hillary, 2020 48-40 Democrat with 10% saying it depends on the democratic candidate.

    Whites 2016 57-37 Trump, 2020 47-44 Trump. 9% depends on the democratic candidate.

    Blacks 2016 89-8 Hillary, 2020 82-7 Democrat 8% it depends

    Hispanics 2016 66-28 Hillary, 2020 50-35 Democrat with 10% stating it depends on the democratic candidate

    Democrats 2016 89-8 Hillary, 2020 91-2 Democrat 6% it depends

    Republicans 2016 88-8 Trump, 2020 95-3 Trump

    Independents 2016 46-42 Trump, 2020 43-32 Trump with 21% saying it depends on the democratic candidate


    Men 2016 52-41 Trump, 2020 46-43 Trump, 10% it depends

    Women 54-41 Hillary, 2020 53-35 Democrat, 10% it depends


    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/3rdraw493c/econTabReport.pdf


    There’s been a big shift among whites from 2016. But it’s too early to tell if this last. It seems Trump has made inroads among Hispanics and independents. But we have so many in the it depends column basing their decision on who the Democrats nominate. It'll be far more interesting to see these figures once we know whether it's Biden or Sanders.
     
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    this sums it up for me quite nicely.
     
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    Without a 3rd Party Candidate (like Stein) siphoning off votes in the Rust Belt, Trump is going to be in Major Trouble.
     
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    Bernie ain't gone yet. The delegate count is 652 Biden to 575 Sanders. Warren hasn't committed her delegates. The rest gave their's to Biden which does make him easily the frontrunner. But more of the puzzle piece will be put together tomorrow.

    He could still stun just like Biden did in SC and SupT. I guess that's why they keep holding the state primary elections rather than stopping.
     
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    Bernie is history
     
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    That's what they said in unison about Biden ten days ago.
     
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    :roflol:

    Anybody who said that about Biden was Hideously Misinformed.

    Biden is going to Beat Bernie (Badly) tomorrow.

    The delegate math will be gone for Bernie.

    On the 17th, Bernie is going to get BLOWN OUT.

    If Bernie stays in after the 17th, he is only hurting the party.

    Bernie needs to have some class and exit gracefully.
     
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    Bernie is left of Marx
    Biden is in outer space . His mind is destroyed. They won’t have him Public much
     
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    It’s scary because Biden seemed ok just 2 yrs ago ?
    Now he has advanced dementia

    How can it progress that rapidly

    ALZ is worse than cancer
     
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    Biden has an uphill battle. Both he and Trump are prone to "misstatements," but it seems like his potential voters are more likely to care about those, whereas Trump's base gave up on standards years ago.
     
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    Under Obama my yearly raises were $0.10 to $0.35 an hour. Since Trump has taken office I haven't gotten less than $1.00+ an hour raises. On top of that my 401(k) has tripled, I am not alone. I could care less what he says, what he's done for my wallet is what counts. Good Luck with senile Joe.
     
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    Its 'sleight of hand', and I have no idea what you are talking about. One of Sanders or Biden is going to get the nomination short of something spectacular happening. It also isn't possible to elect someone by 'sleight of hand' in a US Presidential election. People know who they are voting for.
     

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