Trump warns schools teaching 1619 Project 'will not be funded'

Heck, slavery was legal and practiced in at least 90% of the world in 1619 if not more. I can find references to the following countries who abolished slavery prior to 1619 only to Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Lithuania along with Portugal banning the the enslavement of the Chinese, but leaving everyone else out. There were some city states that made slavery illegal, but that was it.

So what's so important about 1619 importation of slaves to the British Colonies in 1619? Almost the entire world was making use of slaves. I see no problem in pointing this out, but all of the above should also be pointed out to ensure proper context of what is being taught. What is being taught without putting it into it's proper context of the times is close to teaching false history. Even thought it actually happened, it leaves the impression that instead of 90% of the world practicing and participating in different types of slavery, the British Colonies were the only one. I also wonder if what is being taught is that in 1619 they refer to the importation of slaves to America or the U.S. and not to the British Colonies.

Context means everything. Perhaps also should be mentioned is the fact the last two countries in the world to outlaw slavery and make it a crime was Niger in 2003 and Mauritania in 2007.

I have no problem with the 1619 project if it is being taught in it's proper context of the times it occurred.

 

So our entire country was founded in racism and every white person today is racist and every institution in racist? You believe that crap? If so YOU are the problem. If my children come home spouting that BS I’ll be sure to correct them.

It’s all based on total and complete revisionist garbage and has zero statistical facts to back any of it up.

 

So you must be a teacher. I am impressed with the idea of examining both sides. Don't know if that happens at the college level. Had two Civic teachers in high school. One was liberal, one conservative. Often we would combine classes and examine both sides. I benefited greatly from that.

On the Native American side of things, I would be interested in knowing if one could teach the narrative of "Bury My Heart at Wounded KNee" against the Narrative of "Scalp Dance"? That would be an interesting undertaking. I believe the "Dances With Wolves" mentality has been taught for so many years with kind of a"anti-foundational American" approach that Scalp Dance would offer a nice, non-fiction contrast!

 

Yeah, in fact the more I’m listening to the cries from the right and research into the curriculum myself, the more I’d have even loved the opportunity to teach it side-by-side with a more traditional curriculum that radicals from the left cry about!

 

If you want to discuss contextualing the materials, I’d say that’s the teacher’s job, and some are better than others.

 

Fair enough.

 

Trump is a sick man, he will do anything to divert peoples attention from the bad things he or his family does

 

yep, that was wrong too, Prohibition is always wrong, we should of learned that buy now

why is it always the things people like Trump know the states don't support that they want to remove funding for if they do not do

 

Nah, it is just he is against fake history and fake news. These "bad things" you claim are phony.

 

Admittedly, the approach may not be as easy as I’m making it out to be. When I cotaught with other teachers, they were the ones creating the plans generally, as my focus was Special Ed. Problems arise with large classes. Parents May get involved, and then personal politics gets offended by just one, and it’s done. Then you have AP and Honors, and parents are double-trouble, and administration is breathing down your neck.

When I taught those lessons, I was working with small classes- no more than 11 kids, who were all Special Ed. Parents unfortunately have less expectations for such kids, so there’s much less parental intrusion (usually, they’ve gone through so much drama by now, that they’re just happy if their kid’s happy), and admins don’t want to look too closely because their afraid they’ll see you guys coloring or playing Hangman. That was the only time I could have enough freedom to teach how I wanted, and those kids responded well to it because often their biggest problems were they were bright enough to see through the BS, but lacked the emotional maturity to control their frustration over it.

I’m embarrassed to say I don’t know Scalp Dance. I’ll have to look that one up.

To tie this all back to the main point, every local district has total control over how it wants to set up its own curriculum, at least in my state (other states may have their own guidelines, but the feds are generally disinterested beyond offering a couple of voluntary suggestions every now and then), so some districts may be considering teaching this in conjunction with other curriculums. The issue certainly isn’t as Black & White as some are making it.

 

When Wellington showed up and started beating his best Marshalls NB should have tried to cut a deal or come up with some radical new tactics to throw Wellington off his game.
But didn't the French come close to breaking the British square at Waterloo?

NB did save the France from being occupied after the catastrophic failure of the French "Revolution", but France blew its chance for greatness when it shredded the Revolution's Constitution.

Hannah Arendt examined the failure of the French in excruciating detail.

"It was the unequal contest of these rages, the rage of naked misfortune pitted against the rage of unmasked corruption, that produced the 'continuous reaction' of 'progressive violence' of which Robespierre spoke; together they swept away rather than 'achieved in a few years the work of several centuries'."

"For rage is not only impotent by definition, it is the mode in which impotence becomes active in its last stage of final despair". Hannah Arendt, On Revolution, Penguin Classics, 2006. p. 101.

 

no, and anyone that believes that about all white people would be racist, but Trump trying to stop people from teaching history on racism is also wrong and imo done for racial reasons

ironically most schools did not teach this, after Trump did this, most probably will

 

I made a mistake and I wholly owe up to it.

 

Trump may be trying to stop the schools from teaching revisionist history, but that should never be the job of politicians.
But so long as government is involved in the operation of schools it will be up to politicians to regulate every aspect of education.

Solution: transfer the money and the power to the parents and guardians of children and let them decide who will teach their children and how they are taught, and what they are taught.

 

Trump is the biggest spreader of 'fake news' or as he calls it 'alternative facts'

 

How is he stopping schools from teaching history of racism? We’ve all learned about it. The 1619 project is NOT history. It’s just indoctrination. There was racism all over the world when the country was founded. And there is NO statistical evidence of systemic racism at all. NONE. it’s completely anecdotal. It’s 1 persons opinion of events.

Less than 20 unarmed black people are shot by police each year. There are 40mil black people in this country. The odds of being shot are .00004-ish. That’s getting struck by lightning. Those are FACTS.

black people are in far more danger of killing each other than white people or cops. FACTS!!!

Nicole Hanna Jones is a crack pot. NOT a scholar or historian. She’s an activist journalist out to make a $$ while the iron is hot. And she culturally appropriates Scottish and Irish women by fake dying her hair an unnatural red color.

 

maybe Trump should talk about what it is he disagree with in the program?

 

While checking out Scalp Dance check out this as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Empire-of-Su...s=commanche+moon+parker&qid=1599492449&sr=8-1

 

Native Americans were enslaving eachother long before white people showed up. Not to mention human sacrifice if you go south a little ways.

 

Somehow in the discussion of slavery and teaching self-hate to White people Africa never gets mentioned. Why is that?

https://survivalplus.com/selected/T...l illustrations are from the original article.

 

https://time.com/4328917/transgender-bathroom-school-lgbt-obama/

 

Trump does not call the truth "alternative facts". The MSM is the biggest spreader of democrat propaganda.

 

These are cogent points, but you underestimate the degree of teacher control of curriculum (though I don't know about your state) and the movement for more outside the classroom control.. In most states the state board of education has major control of the curriculum, mostly through their direction, selection, and enforcement of textbooks. They also determine what will be on uniform tests, and the teacher damn well better teach to it. It is true that the teacher has some flexibility on a day-to-day basis, but to say they have teaching freedom is an overstatement.

Then, as one example of things to come, this from the Democrat 2020 platform, "We will equip students with the knowledge and skills to understand complex scientific issues, counter the rising tide of denialism by promoting environmental and climate literacy,...."

 

no, you're right, the Trump admin calls their lies "alternative facts"

 

Huh? Your last sentence makes no sense....