Trump warns schools teaching 1619 Project 'will not be funded'

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  1. ellesdee

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-warns-schools-teaching-1

    Remember how conservatives reacted to the feds trying to push Common Core on the states? There wasn’t even a threat to cut funding with that, nor even a demand that it be followed, yet the angry reactions were palpable.

    Besides the fact that Common Core was crap, one of the very biggest complaints from conservatives was, what they called (and I agreed with), the fed’s unconstitutional intrusion into states’ rights, and how important It is that states have control over their own educational standards so they may reflect their own individual values. Now, however, we see the right threatening to cut funding if you don’t stick to the preferred educational script.

    Is the average conservative really comfortable with this? Are states’ rights just no longer a significant issue for conservatives anymore?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The federal government has no place in our schools at all, cut all federal spending and leave education to the states and communities. If people want the federal dollars, then they really have no choice but to accept federal guidelines and consequences. The 1619 project is just white guilt monkey nonsense and should never be taught to anyone...
     
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    I think this is reasonable.

    Yeah, well, the SC also ruled that it’s cool to teach creationism as science, so it shouldn’t do any more harm to our kids than we’ve already done.
     
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    The "average conservative" has already made the Faustian bargain.. They are comfortable with whatever the Trump administration tells them to be comfortable with...

    But this is another REALLY stupid Trump threat that he cannot and will not back up, so no worries.

    From the little I've read about this (I.E. this article), it doesn't sound all that radical to me...

    Not sure I followed your point about creationism.... I don't believe that's allowed to be taught, if the great folks at Wiki (ha ha) are correct.

    SNIP
    In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled the teaching of creationism as science in public schools to be unconstitutional, irrespective of how it may be purveyed in theological or religious instruction.
    ENDSNIP

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_and_evolution_in_public_education#:~:text=In the United States, the,in theological or religious instruction.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It will do harm, that's the problem. Creationism or evolution won't actually change anything in the every day lives of people, whereas if you start indoctrinating children into white guilt and passive racist ideology you will damage them for their whole lives. Those people smart enough to see through it will likely move aggressively in the opposite direction...
     
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    Oh no! That was my mistake. I misread Wiki.
     
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    De-fund schools for attempting to teach divisive revisionism? Sounds like a plan.
     
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    Well, I’m not going to pretend like I have a vast knowledge of 1619 Project curriculum, but it is backed up by many experts and has received the Nobel Prize, so I’m sure it’s a worthy curriculum for anyone who find it engaging.

    I’ve always supported exposing students to a variety of differing viewpoints and let them critically analyze them according to their own personal values. Let the chips fall where they may, so to speak, as you mention in regards to kids rejecting 1619 Project, much like how many people looked at creationism, and then rejected it in the end.
     
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    Big Gov Conservatives

    wonderful
     
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    Adolf Hitler got a Nobel! Its no longer the highest prestige of human accomplishment. And as far as 1619? The problem with that is the pesky 1776 declaration of independence and the 1775-1783 revolutionary war. Despite all attempts at 'white fragility ', despite all other propaganda attempts, the framers put their blood, sweat and tears into this country and that can't be, ready for this: Whitewashed away.

    The President is right that any school teaching Communist Propaganda does not deserve federal funds. They can privatize if they so wish
     
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    Bulldust that creationism will not change anything - it already has by reducing the trust in science and the scientific method
     
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    Baaaaarrrrrrp! No Hitler did not! He was nominated as a joke but it was never a serious consideration
     
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    Pres Obama cut funding for schools that didn't adhere to certain transperson bathroom policies because it belittled them. So since that was ok its surely then ok for Pres Trump to cut funding for schools that teach these anti-White viewpoints as that also belittles people.
     
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    I appreciate that correction but I also appreciate that you haven't taken sides in this internal political dispute that pulls scars on our country. Thank you.
     
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    Oh please. It makes no difference because we are here now. However we got here is irrelevant. Whereas this revisionist history nonsense is happening now, the ramifications are the immediate future and beyond. Pushing for the acceptance of passive racism, in which existence is the only qualifying requirement is a bad idea all the way around. The whole notion is racist, which ironically liberals can't even see or understand...
     
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    The American education system is failed waste of money. The China Flu lockdown has exposed just how obsolete destructive it has been for decades.

    It should be defunded and replaced along with the "progressive" professional police departments. Defund the crooks and Give The Money Back - to the people.

    The 1619 project is just another inane attempt to abuse and indoctrinate children.
    Pink Floyd had it right.
     
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    *shrug*

    Yeah, I resent progressivism that much.
     
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    In fact, most "progressives" loved Hitler for rather obvious reasons.
    Well, until he committed heresy and broke the Hitler/Stalin Pact.
     
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    Did he? Can’t find any validation for this
     
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    Until your on the wrong end of the deal
     
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    The NY Slimes hired and defended this racist, they have zero business being allowed to indoctrinate children. [​IMG]
     
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    The difference between Big Progressive Government and Big Fascist Government is a thin line drawn with a pencil.
     
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    Well, since I have no desire to use academics to spread my ideology, I can't imagine how I'd end up on the wrong end of the deal. Math, science, language... you know... things young people need to prepare for their future lives... that's all I support.
     
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    Too be fair, our history curriculum is already a load of propaganda that probably also shouldn’t be funded, so I don’t mind different states choosing their own propaganda. I mean, if that’s all we’re giving them anyway.

    hitler’s nom was a joke
     
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    Here is my plan to address the problem. Again. :)

    1. Transfer control of the entire education budget to parents and guardians of children -
    14K -20K/student/year in most school systems.
    2. Eliminate the administrative parasites including the school boards.
    3. Let college grads, including teachers, form their own small schools 15 - 20 students for each teacher from homes or offices using the resources of the internet.
    4. Teachers who are able to control and educate "problem" students could charge far more for their special talent.
     

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