It looks like the Fall Surge is coming

April 30, 2020: https://news.yahoo.com/covid-19s-us-fatalities-compare-234205881.html
Yeah, a little like the flu, except we now have two pandemics that are related by death toll, the Spanish Flu and Covid-19. And the graph of the Spanish Flu in that article, see the months; we may not be anywhere near out of this. We are certainly more advanced now in mask tech...might be a good idea to take advantage of that.

 

Herd immunity means lots of people test positive. Thats kind of how it works.

 

Herd immunity means the virus is no longer a threat to the herd.

 

About 20 seconds. The wifebeater’s background popped up all over Google just by typing in his name alone. If that’s what he is best known for, and you are pinning all of your hopes on this guy, then prepare to be disappointed when Chauvin walks next year because Mr. Sexual Assault couldn’t build up a proper case due to his extreme lack of credibility. It figures that Minnesota would appoint him as their AG; they already have a known Jew-hater that married her brother in order to become a U.S. citizen representing their state in Congress.

 

That sounds like herd mentality to me.
You get a lot of people that have had it, so they no longer catch it.
You don't test positive when you have antibodies, you test positive when you have the virus.

 

straw man
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noun
noun: strawman

1. 1.
   an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
   "her familiar procedure of creating a straw man by exaggerating their approach"
   
   
2. 2.
   a person regarded as having no substance or integrity.
   "a photogenic straw man gets inserted into office and advisers dictate policy"

Homicide.

 

Oh it was very relevant to what you said because it attacked the credibility of your man Ellison. You also posted news from way back in June, so please try to stay current.

 

and if they are hoping for antibodies to help them out that is going to be another set back for them. Some never get any and most are gone within 10 weeks.

 

Is the cop charged with murder? I think that says it all.

 

You think Ellison wrote the autopsy report?
I didn't know he was even a doctor.

 

After looking at some of your posts (misunderstanding the nature of dying from Covid-19 and dying with Covid-19) you won't even need a deadline and an ultimatum. You go immediately to my Ignore list, no delay needed. Again, no need to waste time with this kind of opinion. Farewell.

 

Yeah. Virus is bad. Humans are doomed.

https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/09/26/cdc-releases-updated-covid-19-fatality-rate-data/

 

Turns out the antibodies aren’t gone in ten weeks, the tests just weren’t very good. Better antibody tests show antibodies wane very little for at least 4 months.
https://www.biospace.com/article/icelandic-study-covid-19-antibodies-last-for-at-least-4-months/

 

Feel free to bunker up and hide. Y'all didn't want a vaccine any time soon. Seems like self fulfilling prophecy to me....

 

... or, otherwise known as 'annual flu season' ...

 

Having the virus is not equivalent to being infected with the virus...

 

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You all? Who do I think I am? Some liberal, some Democrat? Nope. Don't confound anti-Trump with liberal or a Democrat. And my main opposition to him is the mess he's been making of this, otherwise I might even have voted for him.

And I don't want a vaccine? Why in the hell did I start a hopeful thread called "The State of the Vaccines" which is pinned up at the top of Coronavirus Pandemic Discussions?

What's wrong with you guys that you are always assuming things about people even when obviously you have no clue who they are or what they stand for???

So, I'm bunking up and hiding? I go to work every day, pal, in a huge hospital, with several Covid-19 patients.

 

Some U.S. states have run a quasi-Swedish strategy with more moderate lockdowns than other states who were rather authoritarian.

Sweden may have beaten the virus and achieved herd immunity. We'll see what happens this fall.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8760031/Expert-claims-Sweden-herd-immunity-coronavirus.html

 

You need a vaccine to be used with herd immunity.

Chickenpox, also known as varicella, is a highly contagious disease caused by the initial infection with varicella zoster virus (VZV).

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/190491

Based on the data collected, it was estimated that varicella vaccine coverage in the day care centers rose from 4% in early 1995 to 63% by the end of 1999. As might be expected, the rate of varicella disease in immunized children was low—ranging from 5.35 cases per 1000 person-months before July 1996, to 1.01 cases per 1000 person-months in late 1999. However, concurrent with the increased uptake of the vaccine in the day care centers, the rate of disease in unvaccinated children also fell dramatically. Among those not vaccinated, the rate of varicella was 16.74 per 1000 person-months prior to July 1996; by the end of 1999 this rate had decreased to 1.53 per 1000 person-months. The authors conclude that this decrease in varicella in the unvaccinated children is a demonstration of herd immunity and is a welcome effect of the vaccine.

 

The PCR tests are notoriously unreliable and inaccurate.

Here's the story from Britain. We're in about the same boat.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-d...tistics-the-deadly-danger-of-false-positives/

 

There was more than one autopsy report. The other one mentions the fentanyl in Floyd’s system. The one done by the Floyd family’s medical examiner doesn’t even mention that George Floyd had fentanyl in his body.

 

Herd immunity will develop as part of the natural process, as Sweden has just demonstrated, as is happening in certain locations in this country, like Queens.

The notion that it can be reached only by way of vaccine is advertising rhetoric from big pharma. They want to sell those vaccines more than anything.

 

I don't recall you cheerleading for a vaccine either. I might be wrong, if I am, it happens. I simply suggest that on the scale I see, you seem more left than center. Perhaps it's a context thing because you don't seem to support many of what I would consider center of the field kind of issues. Brava for your willingness to go to work. Your courage to work in that environment reminds me of the same kind of selflessness we see in doctors without boarders. All good stuff. Not an indication of how one might lean politically for sure. And to be honest, I didn't suggest you didn't want a vaccine, I asserted that you didn't want one to be produced soon. That, to me, indicates an agenda. If I misconstrue your intent, by all means persuade me that you would, in fact, want a vaccine delivered as quickly as possible. I don't assume much about other posters. I just read the posts, I see the disconnects, and I respond accordingly. But the reality is this. Fear just causes things to break down. I bet you know this. So, why be it's proponent here? If all you bring is a conversation about fear, it isn't that helpful, in my opinion. Suggest to us how we get through in a way that doesn't destroy the fabric of our economy. It's nice you have a go to job every day, but I dow LOTS of folks who can't run their businesses, are shut to non profitable levels of operation etc. Fear. It's what you brought. The results are what I describe.

I still don't believe that the amount of fear will overcome how disastrous a Biden presidency would be, and if you're actually in healthcare, I bet you already know that. But sure.