World’s ‘solar and wind capital’ freezing due to snow ‘blanketing millions’ of solar panels

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  1. notme

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    Burning wood causes soot to appear, and it's indeed toxic.
     
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    I see a lot of people still don’t understand the difference between climate and weather.
     
  3. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then none of us would be here because all of our ancestors would have died.
     
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    Love the drive by posts.

    Are they mutually exclusive? Or is one involved in the other? Inquiring minds and all that......
     
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    We only hear that when it's really cold. When it's really hot, it's all global warming.
     
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    Battery farms will eliminate this problem, as I, and just about anyone in the industry can point out.

    It isn’t a theoretical concept. And it isn’t an expensive one any more either.
     
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    Wood is the dirtiest fuel there is (except sod, of course)

    It has the lowest BTU yield of any fossil fuel. it is non renewable, which is why the US stopped relying on it as a primary energy source 175 years ago.

    It is very high in CO2, NoX, and Hydro carbon emissions.

    And it generates more waste than any other fuel.
     
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    Funny how Antarctica has functional windmills and places liked MN WI and MI have functional eindmills and solar panels in sub zero temperatures.
     
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    Tucker Carlson phrased them well:

    "Last year, roughly a quarter of all electricity generated in the state came from wind. Local politicians were pleased by this. They bragged about it like there was something virtuous about destroying the landscape and degrading the power grid."

    "So it was all working great until the day it got cold outside. The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-texas-green-new-deal-climate-catastrophe
     
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    BTW, the idea that power outages in Texas are the fault of battery farms is a right wing myth, one that apparantly is being bellowed over MeWe and all the usual right wing trash blogs.

    The issue is with Texas’ antiquated distribution system.
     
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    What?
     
  12. TomFitz

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    Looks like he entertained the flat earthers! It isn’t as if he is ever going to tell his audience something it doesn’t want to believe!
     
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    I'm glad she's not serious.
     
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    Oh my.....wood burning is a part of nature! I'm sitting by my fire as we speak!
     
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    Quick, ban fire....
     
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    If you're familiar with Southern California, then you might take a look at the windmill farm outside of Palm Springs. They have thousands of windmills, however, many of them no longer spin and some of them have fallen down. If they were worth fixing they'd be fixed. Apparently no one thinks fixing them is worth it.
     
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    Yes it IS real. This summer Texas and the Southwest will be experiencing 100+ degrees!
     
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    What is the environmental impact of manufacturing and disposing the batteries?
     
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    I work for an answering service and we have about 4 accounts in Texas. I was never so busy on a graveyard shift as last night. TONS of people calling off of work due to the weather. And its just me and one other person handling the calls. Needless to say it was not fun in the slightest. I think in a two hour period we had about 300 calls.
     
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    Texas at -20C, five million without power as Wind Turbines freeze
    Welcome to Woke World where states pretend to control the weather while the weather controls the state

    An Arctic blast; an ice storm called Uri, has frozen up half the wind turbines in the hot southerly Big State of Texas.

    Supplier Oncor is warning it may be hours before power is restored. People are livid, their pipes are freezing, some have had no electricity for 12 hours. Their website is down, their phone lines are out. People can’t even report outages.

    UPDATE: NY Times is already blaming Climate Change for the frigid weather.

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    Anchorage, Alaska is warmer than parts of Texas.

    At least five dead and 5 MILLION without power as winter storm Uri sweeps the nation, freezes wind turbines, plunges wind chills to -20 in Texas and causes tornadoes in the south west. . . .
     
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    You literally know nothing about this. Stop. It isn't the power distribution it is the fact that 10s of thousands of windmills and thousands of acres of solar farms aren't producing because they cannot. And it isn't the "cold' so much as it is 7 days of freezing rain/drizzle, and a historic snow storm. Tonight we're supposed to get another ice storm, and 1/4 to a 1/2 inch of ice. no windmills until at least early next week, that is, if and big if the turbines will restart after having been frozen.
     
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    That's the problem with wood burning - you have to sit inches away from it to feel any heat! And during that time you're choking on the fumes and you smell terrible the following day. You do have a good sleep though, probably due to carbon monoxide poisoning. Brought to you by a camper.. ......
     
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    I think nuclear is the best option for the short-term as renewable tech continues to improve.
     

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