World’s ‘solar and wind capital’ freezing due to snow ‘blanketing millions’ of solar panels

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  1. Junkieturtle

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    The snowy and icy conditions down there has also made it hard and dangerous to travel by automobile. I guess relying on cars instead of keeping dog sleds around was a stupid idea too.
     
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    Not a lot in central TX is open. Roads look like mid winter Wyoming, and of course not many folks around here know how to drive on snow packed roads. We won't get above freezing until perhaps Saturday? Hard to know. The weather folks around here are starting to bring voodoo dolls to work to try and forecast more accurately.
     
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    Nuclear is the best option, period.
     
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    First they called it Global Cooling, and when that didn't happen, they changed it to Global Warming, and when that didn't happen, now they finally realize that the climate changes whenever it wants to and simply call it Climate Change. The climate has been changing on it's own for millions of years before man even walked the Earth. And if that big yellow ball of fire in the sky decides to act up, there's not a damn thing you can do about that, either...
     
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    Thats nice.
     
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    Yeah, and when I say “as renewables continue to improve” I mean within the next 50-100 years.

    I doubt they’ll be viable mainstream within my lifetime.
     
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    It's the beauty of changing the religion's name from Anthropogenic Global Warming to just climate change. now every weather option is covered... It's pretty laughable. We're having an historic cold snap here in TX. And the acolytes as the NYTs don't have anything else to shill... so... It's climate change. Perhaps they will start hyperventilating about global cooling like in the 60s/70s.... Notice how you don't see anyone squealing about the arctic sea ice extent this year??
     
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    Here is some detailed local reporting that pretty much knocks that windmill knocking by the flat earthers right into a cocked hat.

    The issue is the grid, not windmills (which are actually producing more power than they normally do this time of year). It is also extreme weather.

    T Boone Pickens called for a modernized DC smart power grid for Texas thirteen years ago.

    https://www.wfaa.com/article/weathe...torm/287-e33e3164-5747-4dd4-99ef-025ca634925a
     
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    Licking soot won't kill you on the spot.
    Yet it's still toxic.
    Such is life as if you didn't know.
     
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    Nature kills. Go ask the wife of Steve Irwin about it, since Steve is not able to respond.
     
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    Something to be praised that burning coal in cities by the general population is no longer happening on a massive scale as a century ago, just like cars have gotten good filters against their fumes. But I guess some conservatives find the need that people need to shorten their lives with avoidable respiratory illnesses due to air pollution.
     
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    Shame you didn't read your whole article: "At the same time, the grid is experiencing higher-than-normal generation outages caused by frozen wind turbines and limited natural gas supplies with individuals using it to heat their own homes."
     
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    Had a friend die last week. Hit in the head with a tree limb. Everything kills you.....so choose something fun!
     
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    Since Wall Street and the electric power industry are already committed to that goal, I fail to understand the legions of right wingers who have some sort of ideological commitment to attacking the idea and clinging to a fossil fuel past.

    But it seems to be a passion on the reactionary right. Big oil has exploited it for decades.
     
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    That article also said that wind is a greater share of the output than it usually is. That was before the quote you cited. So you obviously ignored that fact.

    You also read, and ignored the reporting that the sources that have been dropping out are natural gas and coal.

    Which makes sense, since the spike in demand for natural gas is for home heating and it is drawing gas away from the electric power industry.

    The issue is an abnormal spike in demand, and antiquated infrastructure to service it.
     
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    So of course, you have forgone fossil fuels, and use alternate sources only....

    The addition of alternate sources to primary sources is understandable, but the reliability factor has come into play, as shown in this recent storm.

    I live in the TVA area. Hydroelectric is about the cleanest energy you can get, but it's only as reliable as the lines transmitting it. We have a wood stove and a pellet stove for backup, plus a generator, and an onan on a bucket truck if needed.
     
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    I just responded to "There are liberals who even think the wood burning is toxic"
    And since it produces soot that is indeed toxic.... you know... libs are factual correct here.
    Welcome in 2021 where a lib hating alternative reality is no longer accepted.
    Kind of it. And I don't care about your alleged friend. Sorry.
     
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    It's not that people on the right have something about oil. It's that people on the right has a better handle on what's realistic. Give me an electric car to go to work and back, a diesel truck to pull my camper, natural gas to cook with an heat my home, and nuclear power to provide electricity. Everything has a place. Wind is fine, solar is fine. Just don't commit more than it can realistically handle.
     
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    I have been witness to 47 years of watching people from states that get no snow go completely brain dead on slick and snow packed roads.. Believe me IT AINT THE CARS ;)

    On several occasion I have watched folks from Cali, Arizona, Florida fly by me 70mph+ on black ice and said to my self, "Self, I bet this idiot doesn't make another mile" no bragging mind you, but I'm like 9 for nine ;) I used to pull them out of the ditch back in the day before cell service but now I just stop and ask if they have a phone if yes let the towing service make the $350 bucks..

    IT AINT THE CARS!!!!
     
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    Than it usually is for this time of year is I believe is what they said so you obviously ignored that fact. The quote I provided included natural gas dropping off due to high consumption. The issue is high demand and low supply, not antiquated infrastructure. You cannot have rolling black outs if the infrastructure isn't working. You just have blackouts.
     
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    Yup, and way I look at it is, we may be waiting on the child that will have the ground breaking theory to unlocking unlimited energy to grow up or be born.. Then I wonder how many of those miracles to mankind have been aborted..

    It's a gamble as I view it..
     
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    Spoken like someone who has never used a wood burning stove. I've never had fumes or smelled of smoke. We use our own fallen trees and split the year before so it puts out the most btu's.
     
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    Again, someone who's not familiar with wood burning wood stoves.
     
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    Actually, a wood burning stove will warm the air around it, and that spreads. It's not a 'quick heat', its ambient heat. You burn a wood stove for hours, and it warms the room.

    If you have fumes and smoke from your wood burner, then you aren't ventilated properly. Have a sweep come clean your chimney, and check your draft. Sometimes, your damper is closed too much and the chimney can't pull properly.
     

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