Israel Strikes Iranian Oil Tankers Bound For Syria

Eh? What on earth are you talking about?

 

Germany, who invented the bomb, has no bomb! Why? Are they forbidden to have one? Who determines which country is allowed to have the bomb? IF little Israel is allowed to have hundreds of them, then why isn't Iran allowed to have at least a dozen? Who is playing God in this destructive game? Not the bad Germans, that much I know!

 

You have to provide at least three links... "public knowledge" doesn't do it.

 

Trouble is, Wikipedia is constantly erasing and replacing the authors facts. This American atrocity is not allowed to be aired in public. I heard about it from my brother, who was one of the million victims. But I later also read James Bacque's book,

https://www.serendipity.li/hr/bacque_on_wikipedia.htm

That you haven't heard of it, is due to the fact that it is forbidden to even mention it, leave alone start digging for evidence in Germany!! The Americans pretend it never happened.
But, Poohbear, just look how they have been treating the Afghani and Iraqis. You surely have heard about and seen pictures of Bagram and Guantanamo prisons. Terrible! And why? What have they done to the Americans? Nothing, that I could see!
No, the American militia and their politicians haven't changed from 1945.

 

Funnily, Jews have never strafed my holdings, infiltrated my strongholds, upset my designs, or in any way molested my life or goals. Maybe it's because I haven't set myself to harass, kill or destroy their land, homes, holdings and way of life. Nor have I sworn an oath to wipe them off the face of the earth and set about attempting to acquire and build the most destructive bomb on the face of the earth for that purpose. But what do I know.... I only know of two Jewish families in my life, the one that lived on my block growing up. They were funny, smart, savvy and the kids were a little bit wild but extremely engaging. My Mother worked for a Jewish family run business. Every day she'd come home and tell me about them. Benny said this, and Marty did that, and oh what a hoot. Every day was something new. She adored and admired them immensely.

 

I agree that self help is a good thing - and that if one is lacking in pride - it is often because the job they did was no good - or that they are perhaps incapable of doing said Job or Task. Folks that can only muster one word answers - lacking the ability to form a coherent response - would perhaps be a good example of this condition .. and thus .. engaging in self improvement might be a way for such folks to increase one's pride in themselves.

 

The so called moderates we were training, were connected with Al Nusra/Al queda. They were the head choppers. The first city the terrorists entered was Homs, and the first thing they did was to tell the 60 thousand Christians to leave or be killed. The genocide of Christians in the world averaged 300 a day, and most of it was in Syria.

When the Syrian army was defeating Al Nusra near Damascus, Saudi Arabia and Turkey helped Al Nusra conduct a false flag chemical attack to give Obama an excuse to bomb Damascus. The city was Assad's stronghold, and Christians from all over Syria ran there to escape the genocide. Had Obama bombed Damascus and the terrorists entered, it would have been the biggest massacre in history.

Thanks to the Pope and Russia, Putin took samples of the chemicals in the false flag attack, and sent the results to London. The government in Britain panicked and told Obama to hold off. To his credit, Putin at Russia's own expense removed all the chemicals that Saddam had sent to Syria before the invasion. The stock piles were checked by the UN and the US, so there are no chemicals in Syria. Everything is a lie.

Obama knew from the start that Turkey and the Saudis were the ones who conducted the chemical attack, because the truck with the components was stopped at the Syrian/Turkish border by the guards. By the time they received the order to let the truck through, Gulen's newspaper Zaman got whiff of it, and Erdogan's opposition brought it up at court.

Other than that, Turkey had its troops lined up to march into Syria, as did Saudi Arabia. Washington's intent was to break up Syria and Balkanize it, and Syria's neighbors were all ready to grab a part. This is why relations with Saudi Arabia soured after Obama backed down.

 

Depends on one's definition of terrorist I suppose. Under your definition - Al Qaeda/ISIS are moderates .. so these crimes to you may not be crimes.

A taste of what medicine - not sure what you mean here. Did Iran target Israeli Oil Tankers - or try and enforce some kind of navel blockade on Israel recently .. I may have missed it.

But speaking of taste of own medicine -are you saying that Iran should also be conducting targeted political assassinations on Israel because that is that Israel did - this kind of Tit for Tat back and forth that we seen in Blood Feuds.

I disagree with your definition of terrorism - and think that choosing sides in a blood feud only serves to prolong that blood feud.

 

I suspect the German account is bogus and conspiratorial. Yes the allies killed many civilians,
and these ARE admitted to (ie Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo and Hiroshima)
Guantanamo is not only not on the scale of the Soviet gulags or German concentration camps
but not even of the same type.
And as for Iraq, as much as I disapprove of what Bush Snr did, at least this country isn't at war
with its neighbors anymore, and people can vote and speak their minds now.

 

The whole history if Iran's subterfuge with nuclear bomb development is something
even the Iranians now admit.
Secret Nuclear Warehouse Explained | The Iran Primer (usip.org)
Archive of secret Iranian nuclear documents draws fresh scrutiny as Tehran stockpiles enriched uranium - The Washington Post
How Israel, in Dark of Night, Torched Its Way to Iran’s Nuclear Secrets - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

Okay, again. There's a problem that England is a nuclear power.
But AT LEAST WE DON'T EXPECT A RADICAL GOVT IN ENGLAND
TO BEGIN BOMBING ANYONE IT DISLIKES.
Now imagine some radical, fundamentalist nation or paramilitary group
having the same bomb. There's more than a 'problem' here, we have
the making of a catastrophe.
Imagine ISIS, Hamas or Hezbollah with atomic missiles.

Who decides? In theory the international community.

 

I think when these small dictators finally get their magic bomb they find themselves in the same place as a super power. They can't us it.

 

1.7 million is BS, were are those mass graves.
My father, 3 of his brothers, 2 of his sisters and my mother were POWs after 45. The boys US and the girls UK camps. Father was Rittmeister and some of his boys were with him in the same camp. One was a artist with a type writer and worked as a clerk for the Americans. He wrote release papers for my father and his boys. One of his boys had been a printer before the war and he knew how to lift a signature and a rubber stamp of a document, with a hot potato. Within 2 month my dad and his boys were released from US prison camp.
They were really bad boys, cavalry and had all years of fighting on the East front. The type writer artist had found out were my Fathers brothers were kept. So with 2 of his boys they walked to those camps and did what they had learned behind Soviet lines, got them out. Next were the girls, now they were 5 hard core soldiers, they got the girls out.
That became a network all over the Western Zone. My father was surprised how easy it was in the US and British Zone. The French he told me was very tough. Which was understandable. That network got thousands of soldiers out of POW camps.
Yes there was a serious food shortage in Germany and people were starving and had been on a very short food leash for years.
So Father became involved in food distribution, which is called black market, 1946. Just think about it for a while. There were 5 guys, hardened by years of war at the East Front, killing had been their business and they had done a lot of that. Besides the camp business they now went into the black market, food, boos, cigarettes, and Christmas decorations distribution he called it.
You did not want to fook around with those guys. If they showed up at a farmers door and offered a deal, they took it.

I am sorry what happened to your brothers, especial the youngest. My Uncle was a pilot, 18 years old and got shot down in the East he came back home in 55. 12 years in the mines.
My family lost, 5 males and 3 females. My father got shot 12 times, my mother 2 times.
I grew up with the damage goods of war and became a soldier how crazy is that.

 

The American intent in Syria has always been to eliminate Assad and his secular and 'all inclusive' society, and Balkanize Syria the way they did Yugoslavia. That way instead of a strong Syria consisting of all different faiths, it would become a group of small weak nations, with each one having their own ethnicity and faith. It's not though what the Syrian people want, and that's why they're fighting.

The oil and gas rich part of Syria east of the Euphrates was grabbed by the Americans under the pretense they were fighting ISIS. The real intent though was to create an Israeli friendly Kurdistan that would put a wedge between Syria and Iran. This way they will deprive Assad of the money needed to rebuild his country, and use the oil and gas in whichever way they please.

The Kurds were never indigenous to the area east of the Euphrates, and they are resented by the Arabs living there. The Kurd home is in Turkey and Iraq, it's not in Syria. I suspect the destruction and genocidal bombing of Raqqa in Syria by our forces, was purposely done to change the demographics and put in more Kurds. But I'm just guessing.

As for ISIS, they were sent into Syria by Turkey originally to fight the Kurds. The Syrian army has defeated them with some military help from Iran, and logistics and air support from Russia. The only place ISIS exists, is in the Kurd occupied territory with its American bases. If ISIS was eliminated completely, then the US wouldn't have an excuse to be there. Unlike Russia and Iran, the US was never invited.

As for Iran, I suspect they are helping the local Arabs fight the Kurds, so they can get their lands back. Anyway, this is how I see the situation.

The mission for U.S. forces in Syria is now more complex — and possibly more dangerous. Though U.S. forces are doing a variety of things in Syria, 29-year-old Quataert says, "our primary mission is to secure the oil infrastructure for use of our partner force."

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/8213...a-more-complex-and-possibly-dangerous-mission
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I think this is a recent map. The yellow part that says Kurd control is where the American bases are. It's also where all of Syria's oil and gas wealth is, and as I said, the Kurds are not indigenous to Syria. So they are resented. Assad will not recognize the area as being Kurdish - since it's not. So he refuses to give them autonomy.

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There is a GREATER PROBABILITY they will use it.
Hitler would have used it.
Osama bin Laden would have used it.
Iran threatens Israel with the idea of having a bomb and using it
Maybe the Houthi would use it.

If a govt is ultra radical, death loving, on the cusp of defeat etc they
are more likely to use the bomb. And its the perfect blackmail weapon.

I suggest getting used to nuclear warfare. At one time siege engines
were seen as the city killers. Guns could bring down an expensive
trained and equipped knight. Machine guns were seen as a particular
evil. Today Syria is still using chemical weapons and Russia clearly
has the same too if they use them on their own people.

 

Maybe the Kurds, like the Jews, should just go back where they come from?

 

Esdraelon - I got so involved in explaining the situation, that I didn't realize I didn't answer your question. Here's one source:

 

Pakistan hasn't used theirs nor has India. China and Russia, England and France have controlled their urges. MAD doesn't just apply to Russia and the US.

 

The Hizballah are an Iranian creation. They've been funded, trained and supplied by the IRGC for decades. Ignore it if you like but it's true all the same. For several years it was common for the Israeli Navy to seize ships loaded with Iranian weaponry. For years now, Iranian attempts to smuggle advanced, more accurate missiles into southern Lebanon has been met with surgical strikes to deny them the better, more deadly weapons.
It's a lie to say that Israel has targeted civilians without any justification. Those who wail and moan about those poor Palestinians seem to ignore all their murders and atrocities. I suppose you feel they deserve what happens to them because "occupation". I don't get bent out of shape because of antisemitic rhetoric but I'll call it out when I see it. If Iran, Hizballah, Syria or even Russia decide to come against Israel then I think Israel has EVERY RIGHT to annihilate their enemies, including with nukes, if necessary.

 

Thanks for the source. What I'm seeing is a political blame game that alludes to the word "theft" or "stealing" when no Americans in the region are doing it. What they ARE doing is keeping that oil from those who have helped destroy Syria. I agree that Russia, Iran, and others should NOT be allowed territory that will create a land bridge between Iran and Syria. That should be stopped for ALL our sakes.
Once Iran has a road connection to arm and resupply the Hizballah with much more accurate weapons, as well as creating a new armed front on the Syrian border that is as strong as the Hizballah are in southern Lebanon, Israel will QUICKLY be pushed into a level of force that could set the world on fire.
Those who hate Jews (not an accusation toward you) will be gleeful that Iran can cause widespread death and suffering on Israelis right up to the point where Israel feels it is being overrun. THAT day will be a horrific surprise to the world as we begin seeing those "funny shaped clouds" sprouting up all over the M.E. I've been watching these moves against Israel since '73 and every death of her enemies was a death they brought on themselves because they refused to make peace and actively attempted annihilation of the Jews in their midst.

 

Pakistan is more like India. But if the Taliban get control of Pakistan we have the same problem -
nuclear blackmail or nuclear terror. Imagine if a Taliban Afghanistan get the bomb.
Get used to it, it's coming.

 

Ignore what ? I have not denied Iran's connection to Hezbollah .. what has Hezbollah done to Israel Lately ? - that they havn't deserved.
What have they done at all since the last Lebanon war ?

Your claim of advanced weapons - not-withstanding - as stated before - none have been used on Israel - and these claims have been coming for decades..

Let me know when advanced Iranian Missile technology - or Drone technology for that matter - or some fusion of the two - is used on Israel.

Until that point - it is only Israel that is using such technology against civilians.

Then you add some nonsense about Russia deciding to come against Israel ... What madness is this that you are suggesting ?

Are we talking nuclear war ? .. as if we are talking conventional - Russia wipes Israel off the map - at which point Israel would go nuclear .. so we are talking nuclear war.

What - Huh ???

 

Forget Washington Post and New York Times, they are biased and can not be trusted!

Iran issues rare threat to develop nuclear weapon if "pushed"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-issues-rare-threat-to-develop-nuclear-weapon-if-pushed/
Now, that should tell you they have been honest all this time. They have no nuclear weapons and no plans for it either! What would they gain, if they had them? Total annihilation from USrael!

 

Again, Iran's nuclear ambition is not up for argument. You don't refine uranium to higher than
nuclear power standards if you don't want The Bomb.
Lots of reasons why Iran wants The Bomb, these would include sense of security, power
projection, military blackmail and even war if necessary. Same as anyone else.
Only the whole Arab world goes nuclear if Iran does - that's the real tragedy.

 

That's an unbelievable story!! Sheer amazing! But I'm glad it was possible to fool the Americans! Are your parents still around?

Massgraves!
You are not allowed to dig in those areas.
Also, I read at one time, that they carted some of the dead away to Belgium on their way to get supplies. But I don't remember much of that article.

The 1.7 million figure is supposedly correct, (read at a Zuendel site), if all dead from the various camps are added together, not just from the American camps. The French were very tough, too. And I know from a neighbor, the SS POWs were especially badly treated.

Excerpt:
The British, though starved of resources, treated German prisoners much better. The Americans and French treated them lousy. The death rate in American camps was four times that of British camps. In the French camps it was 20 times compared to the British.

http://uncensoredhistory.blogspot.c...-captured-soldiers-ww2-mistreated-allies.html

Here is a more thoroughly written article...
http://www.revisionist.net/german-pows.html

I have to get off this bloody war or I'll face a sleepless night!