Israel Strikes Iranian Oil Tankers Bound For Syria

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Israel needs to be reigned in

  1. Yes - these continuous wars in the ME need to stop - Israel is a problem

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  2. NO NO NO - nothing to see here - Iran is the bad guy .. Israel the good guy

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need to put a leash on Israel - This nonsense has to stop.. these are acts of war.

    Israel's "Terrorism" claim is abject nonsense given Israel is by far a bigger supporter and purveyor of Terrorism.

    What say you ?
     
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    Good for the Israelis, stick it to the Iranians and cripple their ability to back the Houthis and other terrorist groups.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I say, why not tit for tat? Iran should sink one of Israel's tankers! If they don't have one, then sink one of the USA's oil tankers, because the US is a big supporter of Israel, they might as well be married!
     
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    How do you propose to leash Israel? When it comes to "acts of war", Iran has been doing that for decades. They assembled an army with 150K missiles on Israel's border with Lebanon. Anything Israel does to prevent Iran from repeating that plan in Syria is fair game. If Iran seriously imperils Israel's survival then I hope Israel's leaders nuke Iran.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure .. terrorists fighting terrorists - war war war - kill kill kill - entertaining to be sure... and even better when your side is attacking "sticking it to the other side"

    I don't like this cheerleading for war ... especially not when it is for war criminals - your beloved El Saud and proxies Al Qaeda/ISIS - cheering on genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    US could easily reign Israel in.

    The rest of your post makes no sense. What acts of War has Iran committed against Israel.. and Iran did not assemble any army - this army existed long before Iran was involved .. and these home made rockets fired on Israel - are not "Iranian Missiles" and good thing too.

    Name one instance when an Iranian Missile has been fired on Israel in the last 20 years ? I can give you many examples of Israel firing missiles at civilians in the Occupied Territories..

    Israel was also involved in arming Al Qaeda/ISIS in Syria - who were fighting against Assad and Iranian forces in the region.

    These forces were not there to fight Israel - they were there to fight Al Qaeda/ISIS . You seem not to understand much about the region.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nail on the head :applause::applause: - This is exactly the problem isn't it. If Iran did respond tit for tat - things could escalate very quickly .. and this is another example of "Do as we say - not as we do"

    They could also - not sink but cripple -( we don't actually want to sink these things - either side) - a Saudi tanker as this marriage is now a loving 3 way between El Saud - US - Israel
     
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    If a country promised to destroy my country I wouldn't have a problem harassing them. Iran is actually the bad guy, OP.
     
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    I agree with you completely, but the trouble is that by way of AIPAC Israel controls the US Congress, and by way of dual citizens in the Pentagon, it controls the war machine.

    Men like Rahm Emmanuel have strong influence throughout the government sphere. The barbarians have been inside the gates for decades. The cover up of the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 shows how deep the influence runs.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah .. its deeper than that .. and more complex .. but - the big money influences run the show - and no doubt some of the those influences are from the Jewish lobby ..

    but Heir Rothschild and company --- .. consists of "Company" .. I call it the Rockefeller Rothschild consortia .. which are just two of the more prominent names in the club R$R -

    Now this is the biggest club on the planet .. but there are others .. and intermingling among club members is common. India - China - Russia- Brazil - so called BRIC's - going strong that one ..

    It is an open secret that China/Russia has won in the ME - they will be rebuilding Syria, Iran, Iraq, and likely Yemen .. maybe the US will get a contract in Afghanistan ..

    Turkey is playing both sides of the fence .. Going ahead with the S-400 system was a huge slap in the face .. same with India. .. .. but sticking to the ME .. who else do we have .. Oman and Qatar are favorable to Iran .. again playing both sides of the fence.. China is now openly violating the oil sanctions on Iran..

    This leaves us will El Saud . .. our Brother in Arms .. who we fought two wars with last decade - arm in arm - with our Al Qaeda/ISIS proxy army.

    Yeah ... that is going to leave a lasting impression .. but OK .. El Saud is still on board .. but -- China is now their number 1 Customer - so this can change in a hurry .. and El Saud has been agreeable to the use of the Petro Yuan.

    but these are games being played by those above my pay grade - but games for the benefit of the aforementioned interests .. and not for the US citizens .. or those of other nations involved.
     
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    I say we need to put a lease on Washington for stealing Syria's oil and sending it indirectly to Israel. A few days ago Russia bombed the truck convoys with Syria's stolen oil, which makes me wonder if the attack on Iran's oil to Syria was a response to that.

    The problem with Syria is Iran. Assad is indebted to Iran for helping Syria defeat ISIS, so he can't tell Iran to leave Syria without payment for their services. But how can he pay them when the US is stealing Syria's oil so he can't rebuild his country?
     
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    Uhhh! And what about those supporting Al Nusra, as they beheaded Christians in Syria?
     
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    Source? How is the U.S. stealing Syria's oil?
     
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    Ditto!

    The irony is... Stalin's antichrist terrorist Edomite-jew colony is a FAKE [it's not "Israel"] !

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    There are several sites dealing with this disgusting issue, but the latest I found is this one:

    US Looting Syrian Oil to Send It to Israel: Ex-US Diplomat

    “The United States of America is moving soldiers from Iraq, which it is occupying, to Syria, which it continues to occupy, in order to steal Syrian oil from the Syrian people and to send the oil to somewhere else, presumably to the Apartheid entity (Israel) and other places that will benefit from American theft of Syrian oil,” the American political commentator and author was quoted as saying by Press TV on January 23.
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    Syria’s state-run media earlier reported that 200 troops had been flown to US bases in al-Shaddadi on 21 January for future deployment at Omar oil field and Koniko gas field in neighbouring Deir ez-Zor province.
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    Read here:
    https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/...yrian-oil-to-send-it-to-israel-ex-us-diplomat
     
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    As VP Biden said in a 2013 speech at DNC event celebrating "Jewish American Heritage Month":

    The influence is immense, the influence is immense.

    The truth is that Jewish heritage, Jewish culture, Jewish values are such an essential part of who we are that it's fair to say that Jewish heritage is American heritage...

    .
     
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    In determining the "bad guy" maybe it depends on how far back you want to go. You do understand that England and the US engineered the overthrow of an elected democratic Iranian government (Operation Ajax) in 1953 and installed a dictator. The US (Carter) then supported the dictator (Shaw of Iran) as he ran a brutal and oppressive regime. Then there is the fact that Iran believes the US supported Saddam during the war between Iran and Iraq. A war that saw chemical weapons used against Iran including attacks against civilians. So if Iran is the bad guy have we been the good guy?
     
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    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    I understand that being Jewish is not a race - but if it was, your Biden quote would be classic racism. I am of Northern European heritage. So if I said Northern European values are such an essential part of who we are, that it's fair to say that Northern European heritage is American heritage -- would that be racist? I believe the answer is yes. In fact, Biden's statement sounds like the sort of thing a Nazi would say albeit with a different spin.

    We should consider our heritage a melting pot of cultures and values and stop with the identification of a group as prime for creating American heritage/values.
     
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    One more relevant site:

    21.12.2020
    US Forces Reportedly 'Steal' Syrian Crude Oil 'On Daily Basis'

    Earlier in the week, reports emerged suggesting that a convoy of US military vehicles had left Syria's oil-rich Hasakah province and crossed the country's border with Iraq, reportedly filled with stolen oil.
    US forces, in collaboration with the militias of Qasad (Syrian Democratic Forces), "continued to steal Syrian oil" from the fields of the al-Jazira region after having laid pipelines across the Tigris River in the Semalka area into Iraqi territory, Syrian state-run news agency SANA reported on Sunday, citing civil sources in the al-Malikiyah region,

    According to the report, before transporting the "stolen" oil barrels to Iraqi territory, US forces took them "by tankers from Karachuk fields in the northeast of Rumailan".

    "The tankers unload oil into oil reservoirs in Semalka region, then the oil is pumped through pipelines laid in the river into Iraqi territories", SANA report said, referring to the source, who noted that "hundreds of barrels" of "stolen crude oil" are pumped through these pipelines.

    The sources also said that the US forces send "dozens of tankers" loaded with the reportedly stolen oil to the Iraqi lands through what is described as "the illegal crossings created for this purpose such as Al-Walid crossing in al-Ya’rubiyah countryside".

    Earlier in December, SANA reported that an 85-tanker convoy, along with military vehicles, carried "stolen oil" into Iraqi territory, crossing the Al-Walid border crossing.

    This crossing is seen by the Syrian government as illegal due to lack of Damascus' jurisdiction.

    This is not the first time the United States has been blamed for stealing the country's oil, as Trump, who last year said that the American presence will help make sure that the Syrian oil does not fall into terrorists' hands, was accused by Syria's Ambassador to UN Bashar al-Jaafari of snatching crude from Syria. Al-Jaafari referred to a deal made between the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and an American company.

    Although Trump vowed to withdraw American troops from Syria, he backtracked the decision, saying that the US military will remain to "keep the oil". Damascus has repeatedly slammed the American presence in the country, noting that Washington has never received permission from the UN or the nation's government to send troops into Syria.

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/...rtedly-steal-syrian-crude-oil-on-daily-basis/
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    There you have it, Sir Esdraelon! You should remember, that Syria is on that famous to do list: Seven countries in five years! USrael is still determined despite Russian interference, to destroy and lay desolate that country. The whole procedure just takes a little longer than figured.
     
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    That sounds fine and dandy now after the mixing has taken place and can not be reversed, but by divine design each continent had its own race and colour, and it would be wonderful, if we could have preserved it, instead of forcing the people onto each other to create conflict and resentment. Again, greed was the driving force behind the slave trade; invading other countries to steal their resources = greed. Sending all these hordes of rapefugees to Europe is also greed, so as to create a new race of low IQ workers for the ruling "Elite" of the future... the NWO, with headquarters in Jerusalem.

    [​IMG]
    Yes, there are plenty of examples in the world to prove him right.

    https://hnewswire.com/jerusalem-new...-that-ties-in-christianity-judaism-and-islam/
     
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    Yes, there's nothing wrong with Iran having the atomic bomb. There won't
    be any unbalance of power between Sunni and Shiite because Egypt,
    Arabia and Turkey have declared THEY will go nuclear if Iran goes nuclear.
    So it's all balanced nicely and the Middle East will be awash with atomic
    weapons. And of course, that's the end of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation so
    everyone can make or buy nuclear weapons.
     
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    Each race with it's own homeland ruled over by its own people was the divine design.

    But the evil Edomite-jew/nwo is now repeating the "days of Noah" and "days of Lot" and [again] it will not end well.

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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are into conspiracies. Conspiracy theorists claim the Queen had Diana bumped
    off because she married a Muslim. What do you think she will now do to silence Markle?

    And do you think this 'Talmudic scholar' speaks for all Jews, or half the Jews, or a few
    of the Jews, or none of the Jews?

    If 'greed' is why people had slaves then every civilization and ethnic group is greedy.
     
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    'Jew' can be a religion if you join Judaism, but generally speaking 'Jew' means that Semitic
    group which inhabited Palestine from the Bronze Age. You can identify this Jew by their
    DNA. You can even identify one of the tribes of Israel, the Levites.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is it then?
     

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