Russia is transferring forces even from ... Siberia to the Ukrainian border

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  1. MJ Davies

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    FULL TITLE: Unimaginable: Russia is transferring forces even from ... Siberia to the Ukrainian border - Operation to crush Ukraine! (videos, maps)

    I don't know what is going on here but it sounds an awful like a lead up to war. Does anyone know what's happening?

    What do you think?
     
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    I've been hearing bits and pieces. I don't have all the facts, and I could be wrong, but from what I understand the Ukranian government is cracking down on the donbass region, which is full of ethic russians. Russia is not happy about this, and I guess is preparing for war.

    Again, my facts could be screwed, but thats what ive got without putting in a lot of research at the moment. I would like to know more too.
     
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    Here is a little something on it. The ukraine violated a ceasefire agreement. Moscow is warning NATO to stay out of it as they mass on the border.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...e-reported-killing-of-child-in-ukraine-attack
     
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    So...were to take what Al Jazeera says seriously?

    Theres another thread here where's theres ...fake news...pics from 2015....I also hear Ukranians are starving and eating babies freshly killed in DPR?
     
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    I find Al Jazeera to be a pretty good source for news that is not Europe or US-centric. I didn't realize anybody had a problem with them. You don't think anything is going on with Russia and Ukraine?
     
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    What do you think the "real deal" is there?
     
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    There could be....im aware there is more "resources" headed to Ukraine...Odessa port from US. Probably for NATO training and exercises this spring and summer....Putinka may be getting desperate....his DPR adventure seems to be an epic fail, and Krym is going dry. He's probably under pressure from his oligarchs hawks to make a move.
     
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    Ohh, could be Putie is getting desperate.....Biden admin seems intent on moving in more resources into Ukraine....?

    Ukraines interoperability with NATO, advisors, trainers and such has been steadily improving....this is possibly worrisome for the Kremlin.
     
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    The Atlantic council is Nato and packed with war mongers, so they're going to give their spin. When Biden was inaugarated, the Ukrainian troops at the border of the Republics began their attacks and provocations. Bloggers began noticing trains in Ukraine packed with arms heading to the front.

    In the meantime Turkey who has its own claims towards Crimea, sent drones, the same kind that were sent to Azerbiazan at the beginning of its war with Armenia.

    Russia to stop the Junta in Kiev from changing the demographics from a Russian majority in Ukraine, to a Russian minority by killing and ethnically cleansing the population in the Donbass, began sending tanks as well as Generals.

    Looks like the maniacs in the Atlantic Council with their anti Russian obsession, are set on destroying Ukraine. What a bunch of sickos.


     
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    Show me this Russian "majority" in Ukraine....Jenny?

    Just like that phony video of nighttime bombing from about 2015 in your previous posting?:D:laughing:
     
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    This is just a start...EVERYBODY'S gonna see how far they can go with our new government.
     
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    Russia senses that Biden is weak and cowardly. Now they see an opportunity to finish what they started under Obama.

    China is doing similar things with Taiwan, again because they can see how weak and cowardly our current "leader" is.
     
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    According to Wikipedia, in the Donbass region, which is where all the fuss is over, 90% of 2 territories in Donbass voted to leave the Ukraine. 39% is ethnic Russian, but 75% of the population speaks Russian, and 40% claim a "Soviet Identity", whatever that really means. Probably more than large enough to give Russia an excuse to invade.
     
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    I think troops taken out of Siberia were lucky. I also think that the man who took Crimea has not finished the job. I know what Russia will do. I wonder what the U.S. will do.
     
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    What do you think will happen?
     
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    Russia will take the rest of Ukraine. I hope I'm wrong.
     
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    I've been shocked at the lack of news media coverage on this. Of course, they pretty much abandoned covering much foreign news after Trump became President and they've never really gotten back in to it. Hopefully President Harris will avoid a pointless war with Russia.
     
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    Too much projection here. It seems that with Biden in office, it's the Democrats that want to see how far they can go in provoking and pushing Russia.


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    Projection, projection, it's what fools do,
    when they can't tell what's false or true,
    and only see themselves in you.

    Yet in the past it's been the case
    with nations that have fallen far from Grace,

    to have caused the wars, like the one we face - Jeannette
     
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    Russia always wanted the whole of Ukraine, but they had to settle for Crimea because the last few Presidents were strong against Russia and wouldn't back down. Obama declared economic sanctions, and Trump was Trump. Now, this current setup of Russia moving troops to their border with Ukraine is a test of Biden and what he will let Russia get away with.

    Too weak a response ends up with Russia invading Ukraine.

    The right response will lead to a de-escalation of this situation.

    Too strong a response leads to World War 3.
     
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    I suspect the war the Democrats want, will be fought in Ukraine with European involvement. Maybe Washington's intent is to get Russia involved there so as to lessen its involvement in Syria. Knowing Putin, if Russia does get involved in Ukraine, it won't be a long drawn out war, it will be a slam dunk and over in a week.

    The bottom is an interesting article translated from a non MSM Greek site. It's wrong in one respect, since it states that Russia has sent troops to the line of confrontation, when there are no Russian troops in Ukraine only volunteers. The Russian troops are on Russian territory along the border of Ukraine.

    Also the article failed to mention that Belarus has it's troops along Ukraine's northern border, so if Ukraine starts a war with some kind of false flag, troops will be pouring into Ukraine from all sides.


    Russia is "showing its teeth" in the wider Black Sea region and seems determined to "end" the backlog created after the 2014 Ukrainian coup and the removal of the legally elected Ukrainian leadership by pro-Western insurgents.

    The first clashes showed that the military power of the New Russia (Donetsk and Lugansk) militants was "holding up", as the Ukrainian regime forces attempting to enter the territory of the newly proclaimed republics.

    In the former Ukrainian eastern region where the republics of New Russia has been declared since 2014, a general conscription has been declared. Some 250,000 Russian Army personnel have also been deployed along the borders.

    Both Russian forces and those of the Ukrainian Army are constantly sending forces close to the line of confrontation in the northern and central Russian-Ukrainian borders. An additional 38,000 Russian soldiers are in Crimea.

    At the same time, Ukrainian President Zelenski is now openly talking about his country's NATO membership, which is a cause of war for Russia.

    According to newer information, the huge mobilization of Russian forces continues with the transfer of forces from Russia's central military command to the border with eastern Ukraine and not only from the Western military command as it has been until now. Characteristic is that a train was carrying tanks from the Central Military Region of the Yurga region of Siberia to the Russian-Ukrainian border in Voronezh.

    This means quite simply that Russia is preparing for a conflict of great magnitude, perhaps even duration.

     
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    So, what is the "right" response here?
     
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