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Abortion Leading Global Cause of Death in 2021 with 43 Million Killed

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by mswan, Dec 31, 2021.

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  1. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    it is as you define it. It’s about what it means to be human. Which is what my point is. I’m not rooting my definition in biology because to me DNA isn’t enough to define something as human.
     
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    Well, it’s 2022 and for some reason people still think they have a say in what others do with their bodies.
     
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    So what were we before that if not human? What about other mammals? Are their offspring somehow something other than the creature that their parents are for a time?
     
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    Yes but neither on their own will ever grow into a human adult.

    - More meta.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    It? You think we were “its” at the earliest stages of our human development?
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    We were a clump of cells. Nothing more. Nothing less. Not acknowledged as life by the individual incubating said cells.
     
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    Wrong.
     
    mswan, Jan 1, 2022
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    We are always human from conception. Never some generic blob of cells to assuage the consciences and the guilt of the murderers as a way of rationalizing it.
     
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  9. mswan

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    Did you miss the fact this is an opinions and beliefs forum?
     
    mswan, Jan 1, 2022
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    Am I murdering children if I toss one out this evening into a tissue? Or do rightists only believe it's murder if I release my children inside my wife? But here's the conundrum, my wife isn't capable of giving birth. Does this mean that my wife and I are murderers in the eyes of rightists?

    Just curious to know exactly where the line is drawn with y'all.
     
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    Human life begins at conception. That’s the line you’re looking for.
     
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    How can you say that? My swimmers are alive, yet I toss them away in tissue or in my wife who can not give birth. Doesn't that make us murderers in your eyes?
     
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    Your swimmers aren’t a fetus, they’re not yet the creation of new human life.
     
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  14. WalterSobchak

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    The egg my swimmer enters isn't a fetus either. Yet, you call that the moment human life begins. Are we murderers because my wife chose to take morning after pills every now and then in our youth?
     
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    It’s also
    Get real! There’s a difference between sperm in a tissue and a fetus
    You are reaching and it’s obvious
    Try harder
     
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    You’re getting more absurd with your arguments. When an egg is fertilized it becomes a new human life, that’s the instant of conception and the creation of a unique human individual with the spark of divine spirit.
     
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    Can you show any death certificates?
     
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    mswan, Jan 1, 2022
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    Yes, definitely. In fact I am now, so are you. "I Thou" is a human construct with no real existence
     
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    So according to your definition, my wife murdered a baby the next morning after she took the morning after pill.

    You really want a law like that enforced?
     
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    Life is life is it not? Why do you want to protect a fertilized egg but not my swimmers that are alive as well?
     
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    In rightists American utopia, a woman who has a miscarriage would be in prison.
     
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    Breitfart :roll:

    and how did they determine this?

    The link is to the Worldometer site that also includes

    785,686,946People with no access to
    a safe drinking water source

    Meanwhile the stats on that site say 152,668Abortions this year but since this is updating constantly then….

    which makes me ask - where did they get the 43 million figure? Are they perhaps,factoring in all contraception? Since the word “abortion” is also the medically correct term for miscarriage are miscarriages also factored in? Keep in mind as well this is a GLOBAL a statistic and that number is out of 7 billion people on the planet
     
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    Since we haven't developed sexual characteristics yet, yep
     
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