What's the best Covid Vaccine?

I've read a few issues, on occasion.

 

Yeah, I think strengthening the immune system through a healthy lifestyle plus vaccination is the best strategy to keep the Covid away.

I'm a vegetarian for many years.

I don't smoke or take drugs. I did all of this until I was about 30. Then I made a decision not to die prematurely of stupidity.

 

No it isn't. A cough would indicate something else going on.

 

In one city in this country, we currently have many dozens of fit, healthy people under 40 in hospital with Delta strain. A couple of dozen are in ICU. And that's out of a total caseload far smaller than that of any cities in America.

You are - with respect - dreaming if you think this strain isn't making younger healthier people very very sick.

 

Because the “common cold” is anything but

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes

Good Grief! WebMD. Googled in less than .01 of a second

 

oh!vey! What do you think vaccines do?

 

Who was talking about common cold causes? WTF does this have to do with anything said by anyone in this discussion? Good grief indeed!

 

Lewis Hamilton, that guy is as fit as it goes, he had covid and is still struggling with the after effects. He could hardly stand after the Hungarian GP.

 

Thanks, learned something again.

Question: in September we will probably get the booster authorized, would you recommend cross vaccination.
Pfizer take Moderna, Moderna take Pfizer, or JJ and so on.
In Germany my older brother had AZ and than bioNtech/Pfizer, it was recommended to him.

 

The Moderna and Pfizer shots seem to be interchangeable as they are very similar.
Mixing and matching an mRNA vaccine with an adenovirus-vector or a protein-subunit vaccine has had proponents/defenders, who argue that this way, we achieve the best in stimulating both humoral immunity and cellular immunity. It's an interesting approach, although it is unproven. We'd need big studies comparing these different strategies, such as, comparing 3 Pfizer shots (two base ones + one booster) to 2 AstraZeneca shots and 1 Pfizer booster, etc. Without studies that would have direct comparisons between these strategies regarding safety, immunogenicity, and the duration of the latter, we can't know for sure; we can just guess. My guess is that mixing-and-matching may prove to be an interesting strategy, but the jury is still out.

 

I've heard Pfizer and Moderna but supposedly you can still get covid with ALL of them so I guess if you have at least any kind its better than nothing.

 

"Many" and "dozens" are terms used to hide the extremely low risk for healthy people. Do you know the actual risk factor?

 

Well, the Pfizer vaccine was officially "approved" this morning by the FDA as being safe when injected into humans. I fully expect that Moderna will also be approved very shortly afterward. I have not heard a word about approval status for Johnson & Johnson's vaccine.

I had the Pfizer shots last April/May, but I continue to wear an N-95 mask, and I take a lot of vitamins and minerals, including zinc (30mg/day), and, Vitamin D3 (4,000 I.U.'s/day). No doubt I'll be getting a "booster" in December or January....

So far, so good....

 

I don't know if this is after the fact info, and you've already been boosted by now, but I just got back to the forum after a couple of months, and I wanted to pass this along, since we both got the J&J vaccine. My first dose had been in mid May. The side effects lasted basically just for a day, most of which I spent in bed, feeling tired and under the weather.
Since the word is that boosters, even the Jansen one, pump up one's immunity to higher than it had been, after the initial shot, or series of shots, I anticipated that would mean that my side effects would be magnified, as well. But when I got my 2nd shot, in early December (1 week shy of 7 months after my first dose) I had no side effects whatsoever.

I was wondering if that might mean that I didn't get a very substantial "boost," but I have yet to catch the virus, to the best of my knowledge.

I hope your experience has been, and will continue to be, just as good as my own.

 

Hello DEFinning,

my personal experience with covid vaccines is even better. From the J&J shot, I had absolutely no side effects.

About 4 weeks later I suddenly got a fever and chills. But only for a day. After that, I was well again. It was the shortest flu attack of my life. Probably it was Covid and the vaccine saved me!

At end of December 2021, I received another shot. This time it was mRNA by Moderna. No side effects again. Only the puncture site did hurt a little the next day.

 

~ The side effects to be concerned about will come years from now - unfortunately.

 

Numbers don’t lie: British children 52 times more likely to die after COVID shot
https://vaccinedeaths.com/2022-02-04-british-children-likely-to-die-after-covid-shot.html

Ouch

 

What's the best Covid Vaccine ?
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~ It will likely prove to be NovaVax .

 

It depends on your age. Considering how the average age of death from Covid is about 82, if you aren't near that age, the compassionate thing to do is to forego the vaccine so an 82 year old African or Southeastern Asian can be saved.

 

Yes, the kind of social responsibility to forgo a shot that could save an elderly person, since they are the ones dying.

 

~ This is not bad logic. Likely why "experts " are not suggesting it ...

 

Why do you think that? Is your crystal ball a well-polished premium one?

 

Natural immunity works the best.

 

If it didn't the FDA wouldn't require long term testing. The industry standard is 12 to 15 years.

 

For strong organisms, not so if you're old and weak.