Resolved: Legal Access to Abortion is Necessary for the Freedom and Equality of Women"

If one doesn't have the right to bodily autonomy none of this

""" the freedom to go to school all the way to a Doctorate, to start a business, to be secure in ones life, to cross local, county and state lines in the entire nation, to own land and home, to practice ones religion of choice, to speedy trial, to be judged by a jury of your peers, to representation, to protest, to speak freely, to enjoy the fruits of your labors,"""...........may be [possible..


Whose bodily autonomy should be taken away next ????

 

LOL, you just can't stop treating women like robots and clones.

NO, not all women can conceive at 12....the mature at different ages....

 

In the end, life will abort you.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
If one doesn't have the right to bodily autonomy none of this

""" the freedom to go to school all the way to a Doctorate, to start a business, to be secure in ones life, to cross local, county and state lines in the entire nation, to own land and home, to practice ones religion of choice, to speedy trial, to be judged by a jury of your peers, to representation, to protest, to speak freely, to enjoy the fruits of your labors,"""..........


Whose bodily autonomy should be taken away next ????

LOL, I accept your defeat and inability to answer such a pertinent question

 

How ever if you want to have a civil discussion about abortion and any rights about it then If you support the practice of abortion as it exist in this country, support making abortion a legal act in this country, support the government forcing taxpayers to pay for abortions in this country, then that is pro-abortion by definition. You don't get to dictate my proper language. Are you pro the act of abortion being legal?

 

I answered your question. You asked, "Whose bodily autonomy should be taken away next?" I said that death would take your bodily autonomy. I think it's macabre to have all that life offers, all the liberties in freedom, and all the advantages in the advances of science, medicine and technology. And then shriek about having the right to kill ones conceptions, as if all were lost otherwise. Why perish on that hill? If that to you is the epitome, then you've already lost it all. And all that remains is to die. I guess what I'm saying is that you should be thankful for all the blessings that you have.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
If one doesn't have the right to bodily autonomy none of this

""" the freedom to go to school all the way to a Doctorate, to start a business, to be secure in ones life, to cross local, county and state lines in the entire nation, to own land and home, to practice ones religion of choice, to speedy trial, to be judged by a jury of your peers, to representation, to protest, to speak freely, to enjoy the fruits of your labors,"""..........


Whose bodily autonomy should be taken away next ????



LOL, I accept your defeat and inability to answer such a pertinent question

"Blessings" that can be taken away if we aren't vigilant....and the rest of your rant doesn't have much to do with abortion..

 

Are you Pro-CHOICE or Anti-CHOICE ? Do you want women to be able to choose abortion or gestation or not?

 

choice
/CHois/

noun

1. an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities.
   "the choice between good and evil"

Choice of what, I am all for you choosing which movie to see tonight, which car to buy, who to vote for, what color clothes to wear today. I am not for you choosing to harm another human being, who about you?

I am anti-abortion not pro-abortion, which are are you?

You asked about these false monikers................you are demonstrating exactly what I said.

 

Nonsense! What does abortion have to do with life or anything in it, other than to end it. I don't think people should pick their nose and eat their boogers. If it was made illegal, would you feel it a threat to anything? Is a stop sign a threat to autonomy. Are building standards a threat to anything. Is any good law a threat to anything. All good laws are a standard we raise to mirror our conscience, not to subject or dictate our willfulness or reduce our fellowman or woman to abject tyranny. Pro choice isn't a service to women. It is a service to false pride with lipstick on it. Women have never been more free. What you propose is the completion of the corruption of womanhood.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
If one doesn't have the right to bodily autonomy none of this:

""" the freedom to go to school all the way to a Doctorate, to start a business, to be secure in ones life, to cross local, county and state lines in the entire nation, to own land and home, to practice ones religion of choice, to speedy trial, to be judged by a jury of your peers, to representation, to protest, to speak freely, to enjoy the fruits of your labors,"""..........
...will exist...

Whose bodily autonomy should be taken away next ????



LOL, I accept your defeat and inability to answer such a pertinent question



"Blessings" that can be taken away if we aren't vigilant....and the rest of your rant doesn't have much to do with abortion..

Taking away the right of bodily autonomy is taking away a basic right....I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between basic rights and picking one's nose ......that's quite a level you're on

 

"who"" about me? guess ya need that dictionary again

Where did you get the idea I'd be for harming another human being? I have never said that...are you now joining the ranks of Anti-Choicers who HAVE TO make up stuff????

Neither, I am Pro-Choice as you've been told a hundred times....sorry you can't/won't get it..

There are no false "monikers"...in the abortion issue Pro-Choice means exactly that....and "pro-Life" is a hilarious joke...it's an oxymoron of the highest order..

Abortion opponents are Anti-Choice..

 

Abortion has everything to do with life -- It gives women the chance to live their life the way they want to without having to be slaves to their bodily functions. It gives them the opportunity to put their reason and pursuits first and that is the proper way to live life.

Although it is indeed very disgusting, it would be very sick to criminalise it. Next thing you know sneezing is illegal too and all of a sudden you are put in jail for the most ridiculous things.

It depends where you put it.

It depends what they say and how invasive they are. Regulations on the housing market leads to higher rent and more homelessness.

Legal abortion has been great for humanity and helped women to be recognised as individuals and advance their lives. Banning it would take away their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and turn them into stockfarm animals.

 

Women want for nothing. They have a fulness of life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness in America. I don't care if they can't kill their conceptions too, except in rare cases. Not being able to, takes nothing from them. But to do so, finalizes their corruption and sets the stage for all future generations to fall in the same hole. That isn't a service to anyone. It is contrary to all it professes to be, and is animus to all mankind. Therefore it is nothing other than a timely and seasonal lie in the march of corruption. And in the end, they'll be dispossessed of their bodily autonomy entirely. So it is best to live rightly while we have lives to live, and a future to ensure for both the living and the dead. I don't expect you to care...just to know what and who you serve, despite your transparent pretentions otherwise. I wipe my hands of it.

 

Abortion is good.

 

Oh well here I will correct the typo so perhaps you can actually answer.

Choice of what, I am all for you choosing which movie to see tonight, which car to buy, who to vote for, what color clothes to wear today. I am not for you choosing to harm another human being, who about you?

Choice of what?

What about abortion itself?

Do you support the practice of abortion as it exist in this country, support keeping abortion a legal act in this country, support the government forcing taxpayers to pay for abortions in this country. If so explain how that is not pro-abortion. Are you pro the act of abortion being legal?

It is exactly what it is a dodge

Hardly I have listed LOTS of choices I support. Can you show me an abortion you don't?

Definition of choice
(Entry 1 of 2)

1: the act of choosing : SELECTIONfinding it hard to make a choice
2: power of choosing : OPTIONyou have no choice
3a: the best part : CREAMOf the cavalry the king's own was the choice.
b: a person or thing chosenshe was their first choice
4: a number and variety to choose amonga plan with a wide choice of options
5: care in selecting
6: a grade of meat between prime and good
of choice
: to be preferred

Choice is limited somehow to abortion, the word is not limited to or assumed to specify an abortion. If you are going to say you support choice then you have to follow that with what the choice is about.

 

That opinion, which is what it is, is NOT YOURS to make for anyone else other that the prospective mother, to make. If she chooses to include someone else, that is her decision.
You have an opinion. It is not fact.
What you are doing is imposing your opinion onto anyone who may be listening. You are clearly thinking your opinion is fact.
Other people do not agree with you and they have exactly the same right to act on their opinion as you do.
Again it is the right which thinks it is OK to make everyone do what they think is right. They should understand that they have NO RIGHT to do such a thing, either personally or through legislation.
I have to laugh when the right says they believe in less government imposition. The right just can't help making laws about private personal matters. And the hypocrisy about being anti gun control, facilitating death and murder, and anti abortion which forces life against the wishes of a woman never seems to be an issue.
Stop pontificating about other people. They have a right to live their lives as they see fit.

 

So you think that liberals across the world, from China to South America, is a plot by tyrannical liberals to inconvenience you? You are having a larf, surely.
I am not aware that liberals want more gun control or play mind control thru the digital currency system. Please support your silly conspiracy theories with real evidence.
I do think liberals respect personal choice and instinctively recoil from insisting everyone marches in lockstep to someone else's own tune.
It is the open door to tyranny.

 

I've never said make a law to force women to act according to my opinion. You shouldn't be assuming that.

 

You didn't have to specifically say it. Badly expressing your opinion leaves no doubt that you are opposed to abortion on any account.Unless of course you think there are those who support murder.
Leave the individual alone to make such decisions. You have no idea what their circumstances are. Old Testament type pronouncements are tyrannical. They treat individuals as captives of their own making and who should be punished for "it". Instead, women have minds of their own and the freedom to use them.
Without you, religion or the state telling them what they must do for THEIR reasons. How dare any of them make decisions for her? Or hold some moral sword over her head? They are well down the road of a witchfinder general.
Begone.you have no moral authority to accuse her of murder.
And dont run off with the idea I approve of abortion on demand. I don't. My argument is with those who don't allow women the right to decide for themselves and who condemn them from a great height and in all ignorance.

 

I am opposed to abortion, I think it's immoral. My concern is morality, I'm a human being, and murder is everyone's business not just the business of women. I will continue to speak out against abortion but never try to force a woman's opinion on abortion or any other issue.

As far as you asinine comment about "badly expressing my opinion" you can pound sand. Pay attention to your biases and you might avoid ignorant assumptions in the future.

 

The major religious force opposing abortion, the Catholic Church, no less opposes ANY form of birth control except abstinence.

They also oppose abortion in cases of rape or incest and even many cases of death for the mother

So much for "responsible sexuality"

 

Not only are you opposed to abortion.
You are opposed to personal freedom based on your own personal morality.
Away with your oppression and tyranny. Your righteousness about unproven claims.
In addition you are a male. What earth gives you the moral right to speak for women?
My bias is not about abortion. I told you I am opposed to abortion on demand.
My bias is against those who think they have any right to interfere with someone else's decisions about their lives. The state should never give its citizens the right to decide how someone lives.
But when it comes to allowing the capacity of each citizen to kill each other, it happily supports that.
Do you not see the hypocrisy, staring you in the face?

 

I'm not speaking for women, I'm speaking for myself, and morality is not different for women and men.

 

No.
It is different for each person.

BTW do stop contradicting yourself.
If morality is the same for men and women, and you think you speak on behalf of men, which I sincerely doubt, then you are speaking for women too.