Tulsa police: Multiple people shot at medical building

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  1. Bluesguy

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    I bet at least 62% think the "AR" in AR-15 stands for "assault rifle".
     
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  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    ..........the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
     
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    Hi, jcarlileesiu.

    The answer's obvious and the question is thus rhetorical.

    What point do you wish to make?

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
  4. MiaBleu

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    that just might be the core of the problem. and that is why nothing can now change. Making this a "right" so long ago when life was different..............might not have been the smartest move. Once it became a "right" and interpreted as folks wanted in order to justify gun ownership............it became almost sacrosanct. Yet the cultures that has evolved is more violent all the time.. The genie is out of the bottle. and folks are quite prepared to accept the loss of life that gun culture entails.
    This has devolved into a psychological l dependency on weapons........and is now embedded into the American image..and mindset.

    It has gone way beyond "rights" ............ and merged into a life style.
     
  5. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you avoiding a simple question?

    Can crime be eliminated with enough laws or money?
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Monarchy is purely constitutional, it's just there to rubber stamp off what the Commons enact. The Monarchy doesn't govern the people, sorry to break the news to you.

    As for 1776, I do believe the colonies weren't doing very well, let's just say they were losing, so the French came in to help the colonies. So can you tell me why Americans try to take credit for the past, but omit the truth? What's the obsession?
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you guys lost Independence, it was the French that won it for you. I'm surprised you didn't adopt the French language for saving you
     
  8. MiaBleu

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    the obsession seems to be with an exaggerated sense of self importance. & entitlement........ that comes from extreme nationalism. and believing one is better than anyone else................ instead of realizing and accepting that everyone and every place is different. & unique.
    The monarchy is the continuum of history........tradition that can anchor a nation. It is more symbolic now..........but contributes the nations identity as well. It might "reign" but it does not rule.
     
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    I was aware the French helped out in that, uh it’s news to me and the rest of America that the French pulled the win for us without all of our help. Don’t worry, if the poo hits the fans well be sure and bail you guys out again.
     
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    Crime can be greatly decreased with better and higher education, secure employment and decent salaries. the other contributing factors to decreasing crime is better health and psychiatric care for everyone.......not just those who can afford it. (focus sing on prevention , and health maintenance...........instead of just crisis management)

    It is unrealistic to expect all crime to disappear. There is always those that don't respond to mental healthcare...........or slip though the cracks. or are very sociopathic.
     
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    And exaggerated like everything the NRA pumps out for morons.
     
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  12. MiaBleu

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    It might be an idea to sort out the many volatile domestic issues first.........and regain some credibility.
     
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    Its doesn't. We (all genders included) don't need guns because they have been taken out of household toyboxes.
     
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    Ho, jcarlilesiu.

    OK, I'll play along for now, though I detect a whiff of troll.

    The answer to this question, as to most absolutist declarations, is 'No.'

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    Yep and I will make a killing investing in anal lube!

     
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  16. MiaBleu

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    Ok.......you want to to own them, and "bear" them............. fine...........as long as you don't USE them or let anyone else use them. Keep them securely locked up.............. admire them , brag about them as much as you want.........but keep them locked. "for display only" ;-)

    that would go along way to decrease the gun crimes.
     
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    dealing with the insanity running through this country by cleaning up all the chemicals in the food and drugs that do more harm than good would be a great start.

    Next make laws that every teacher and school employee must be armed with an excellent shooting record.
     
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  18. SiNNiK

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    I gave you direct links showing the actual current prices for those items right now.

    Exaggerated in what way?
     
  19. Bush Lawyer

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    Your words:



    I have been unable to find any link which credibly describes what weapons the arrsehole had. So, these guesses, including costs are exaggerated for NRA purposes. Blame everything, diversions to anything, other than the bloody gun.
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Nope I have the right to use them in my defense against intruders and mauders and someone threatening myself or someone else with serious bodily harm or death and a tyrannical government. I do not have to depend solely on the government to protect me against such dangers to me, my family or others under such a threat.
     
  21. SiNNiK

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    Let me help you.

    "The Uvalde school shooter used a rifle manufactured by Daniel Defense. The weapon is known as a DDM4 Rifle and is similar to those used by the military."

    https://nypost.com/2022/06/06/dad-of-uvalde-school-shooting-victim-hires-sandy-hook-lawyers/

    As for exaggerated costs, click the links, it'll take you to items that are currently for sale.

    Educated does not mean exaggerated.
     
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  22. Bluesguy

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    Now, it wasn't when we told King George we wanted no part of him and ran his military off our shores gaining our independence. Glad Great Britain took the lead from us and did take that authority away and make the monarchy a mere symbol and the House of Commons become the primary governing body. The French as they normally do waited until 1778 it was a sure thing and that the Americans were not going to give up and would become a power house so better to be on their side. They finally helped at Yorktown blocking the sea, the Continental Army had no navy to speak of, while the Americans pounded the Brits into submission out foxing their premier commander in the field Cornwallis. The strongest military force in the world beaten by a bunch of ragtag colonist seeking their freedom and liberty.

    And of course we became that powerhouse and had to save Britain and Europe twice and the Pacific once. You're welcome.
     
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    A bit high in my opinion, but $6K is not unreasonable.
     
  25. Bush Lawyer

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    See...exaggeration by a factor of at least 30%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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