Tulsa police: Multiple people shot at medical building

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    You might have an argument if the for example school massacres were carried out by known 'criminals' That is not the case, is it. The Uvalde killer was no crim. If his toy box did not have guns, then would he have been able to get one on the 'black market?'

    I know people in low places down here, but I would not have a clue how to contact a black market for a gun. Even if I did, it would cost a bloody fortune, way beyond the budget of someone like the Uvalde killer.

    Stop trying to find pathetic petty excuses to rationalise the slaughter of kids at schools
     
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    Do you think criminals are born? Criminals, by definition, are law breakers. And not every criminal is a careerist. Some only commit one crime in their life.

    The fact that you're too naive to know how to purchase illegal items on the Black Market doesn't mean no one else can't figure it out. The kid in Uvalde apparently had enough money not only to buy one, but two guns and tons of ammo (which isn't cheap). Plus, a criminal can rob a store these days without worrying about anyone stopping them and take the merchandise they steal and trade it for guns.

    Stop telling me how to make a point. Deal with the ones I make or don't. It's pathetic that you would resort to emotionalism to try to shut someone up.
     
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  3. Bush Lawyer

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    Nothing emotional about 19 dead kids. That's the reality of the USA on what seems like a daily basis. But.....you keep killing your kids if that's what you reckon is a good thing, something far more preferable it seems than getting rid of guns from the household toybox. Carry on Team USA, you must be so proud. It seems even your gun shops can't stop a kid from breaking in to get weapons to kill kids en masse.....according to Overitall.
     
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    Now you're just making an absolute absurd point to win an argument.
     
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    You seem afraid to blame the actual criminals. How can your suggestions be trusted? If you can’t even blame the people who are committing crimes why even be a part of a discussion?
     
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    I don't find much different in moral beliefs between atheist of those of some belief in supernatural beings, religious faith. Good and evil in the real world are pretty clear.
     
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    Ahhh the success was not having a monarchy ruling over us or a class of royalty based on birthright and our rights and freedoms not dependent on a government but guarantied by our government declaration it shall keeps it's middling hands off of them. We had a French who only made itself known after you Brits were losing and I shan't go into the lost causes of the former British Empire but if ever our paths cross I would gladly accept a pint for my country savings yours arse twice in our history my father and grandfather both involved in the effort.
     
  9. Bush Lawyer

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  10. Bush Lawyer

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    Nothing absurd about it, and you know it. You just can't bring yourself to confront it.
     
  11. Bush Lawyer

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    I want to disarm the criminals. You don't.
     
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    Then why do all your efforts go to keeping firearms out of lawful citizen's hands?
     
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    Still moving goal posts I see.
     
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    stop trying to prevent good people from being armed, while pretending someone who wants to commit mass murder will be deterred. the killer at Uvalde was able to "afford" over 5000 dollars for that hardware. I bought a 18 year old student I coached an AR 15 for her 19th birthday today-she picked the least expensive of the four she liked best at the shop-a nearby made Anderson Arms. it was 899/ BTW for 5 grand, you can easily get a black market AR and plenty of ammo
     
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    Wrong-you want to disarm honest people and you pretend that will disarm criminals

    once again-passing laws restricts what the law abiding do
    enforcing laws restricts what law breakers do

    passing more laws does not restrict the law breakers
     
  16. Bush Lawyer

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    You don't need them, as we down here have proven. You will not listen. You want guns.
     
  17. Bush Lawyer

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    No good people need guns. Why on Earth did you buy that kid an AR 15? Who does she intend to kill?
     
  18. Bush Lawyer

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    Rubbish. It worked in the USA but that legislation passed its sunset. It works down here. Outlaw possession of guns in household toy boxes. Not one person has yet given me a valid reason why just about every bloody house in the USA is an arsenal. The Russians are not coming down your street, you know.
     
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    people who think like you would ban guns if they could. "household toy boxes? WTF is that. Where is "down here?
     
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    I need guns, I like to shoot
    I need guns, I shot a mugger
    I need guns, people like you want to ban them
    I bought her a gun because she is an all american in a shooting sport and likes shooting guns. I also wanted to tell that clown in the white house to go screw himself. Tuesday another student turns 18, she's getting an AR 15 too
     
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    people who tell others what they need are exactly why those who want freedom need to be well armed.
     
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    False. It doesn't prove any such thing. You don't know where she was, or what sort of exits might have been available to her. She might have been cornered, with no way out except through the home invaders.

    Either way, she did society a great service, and we owe her a debt of gratitude.
     
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    "People like me" have no interest in banning guns. All I want is simple. Get those things out of the household toybox. "Down here" is down here. Get a Globe.
     
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    You seem dangerous. Why does your 'all american' need an AR 15?
     
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