The rouble is soaring and Putin is stronger than ever - our sanctions have backfired

I don't argue with you. And the USA, EU, Great Britain (dollar, euro, pound) are proof of this.
There is no Russian cheap gas - and, for example, the EU is in danger of collapse.

 

Uh-huh, iv been hearing that song since the inception of the EURO. "It's all gonna collapse, it need to be restricted by gold!!"

You got ur investments tied into citadel silver and gold yet??

 

How exactly would the collapse of the European Union manifest itself?

 

Without oil, you're not an electrician because you won't have the insulation needed for conductors. What's next, as an electrician, would you like to say? Lemme guess - copper is not the future???

Should I expand?

Without oil, you don't have your fancy iPhone....your ELECTRIC car...your TV...even tampons if you need them.

Get rid of oil they say! *******n the ignorance.

 

Within 3 years, all those western countries that you despise will have moved on from Russian oil and Russia will be hurting from both Sanctions and reduced oil sales.

 

My goodness, you think ALL oil will go away?
That's not to bright a position, just because green energy is the future does not mean there will be zero use for oil.

It goes from disappearing from earth in the next 200 years to lasting well over a few millenia. Try an keep up.

Russia won't make the same profit as the last oil high for the foreseeable future, that's a fact. It may be the reason putins so scared now.

 

Yes, almost all people who live under Russian regime believe that every single one of my examples show that the Russians only respond to aggression against them and are never the first to start a war, people who don't believe are dead or in jail.
Some time ago I met a Russian who didn't believe that Russians only respond to aggression against them and are never the first to start a war - it cost him 15 years in Gulag.
By the way, for some strange reasons Chechens rebelled and wanted to be part of Russia - they wanted to create their own independent country and Russia responded the same way as few hundred years ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide

 

Sorry to the late response, had a lot to catch up on. Firstly inflation was going up with or without the war due to the COVID induced logistics and labor shortages. US unemployment is a record historical lows, even if Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine the only way inflation was headed in the US and elsewhere was up! The war just made the situation worse.

As for 'funding' Russia's war effort there's zero way to avoid it. Don't sanction their gas supplies and every cubic foot of gas Europe and the West buys funds the war effort. Support Ukraine with weapons, munitions and intelligence etc? Putin turns the screws anyway at some point to try and force the west to stop/back down and prices go up!.

The only way to ensure gas prices stay low? Let Putin take Ukraine, full stop. And think what example that sets for Russia and China in the future? Long term a independent Ukraine is in Western interests (including the US) because Putin absolutely will not stop until he restores Russia to what he imagines is its glory days where all of Eastern Europe is dominated by Russia (And more if he can get it).

 

I'm not saying we're not in a damned-if-we-do, damned-if-we-don't scenario, it looks like we can both agree that is true.

My issue is with you jumping to the 'you must be a Russian agent' when someone suggests we'd be less damned the other way...

 

Russian apologist not agent. And in this particular case I simply think the 'conduct' concerned (blatant aggression/conquest) is so egregious that it cant be overlooked. Sitting on the sidelines on Ukraine amounts to agreeing to let Russia do as it pleases and as I noted in that case it won't stop until all of eastern Europe has fallen. The question then becomes where is the line in the sand? And I'd sooner have that as far to the east as I can possibly get it. Collectively Western Europe is Americas greatest ally when it comes to counter balancing the economic and military power of Russia and China.

 

I think that at first the EU will formally exist for some time, but the countries will stop implementing the decisions of Brussels, which are contrary to their interests. (Like, for example, Hungary is doing now. By the way, Hungary has already rejected the priority of Brussels in matters of Hungary's political and economic priorities.) Then the countries will openly begin to choose self-interest on all issues.
Please note - The EU economy is actually the economy of Germany, and to some extent France. But most of the countries are subsidized countries.
If the Russians turn off the gas, for example, the German economy will instantly turn into a pumpkin. This means that Eastern Europe will not receive subsidies. And since historically Eastern Europe is political prostitutes, they will very quickly betray the old Europe. Just like they betrayed the USSR.
But the old Europe also is one big problem. Spain, Portugal, Italy...I'm not even talking about Greece - it's one big economic problem...
But there are also political problems. These problems do not come to the fore with a strong economy, but when people have nothing to pay for utilities, gasoline, food ... these political problems will flare up with particular force. Basques, Corsicans, Ruhr, East Germany, Barcelona, countries of the former Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria ... their name is legion. ....and so on. Every country has its own problem.
As a result, I am sure that war will begin in Europe. If you think that this is not realistic, look at the countries of the former USSR or Yugoslavia. In a period of economic problems, I repeat, I am sure that wars will begin in Europe.

 

But maybe we can talk about the genocide of the Indians?

 

"posting paid for commercials on behalf of the Kremlin" sounds to me like being paid by Russia to post propaganda... but ok w/e

'line in the sand' goes both ways. Personally I think we should send them craploads of battle rifles- enough for everyone who wants to fight, and let them sort it out. The people of Ukraine will then draw the lines where they want them (by fighting Russia ...or becoming Russian). Most of the advanced 'professional' weapon systems we're sending their military just fall into the "giant black hole" (as our military officials put it) of probably getting blown up by the Russians or sold on the black market while Russia creeps further into Ukraine.

On the other side, how much more of our economy should we dump into it? There has to be a line in the sand there too. Because we're dumping about all we can afford (more than we can afford imo) and Ukraine is not winning. Is there a point at which you say 'OK enough', or will you send Ukraine your life savings worth of 5.56NATO to keep Russia at bay?

 

The US can't do squat, NATO is the same. The Euro is caving just like the US dollar. Sanctions mean jack to Russia, Europe is F*ed because they rely on gas & oil from Russia and Russia will only accept gold or roubles with the bonus that the rouble is backed by gold which is not affected by the economic fallout caused by Brandon shutting down an oil pipeline.
I think Russias got this in the bag. The retards that thought sanctions will damage Russia have backfired epically. Ukraine nazis are sore losers so they have to kill their own for sickening sympathy. With MSM spinning countless fairytales of the opposite of what I've already stated.

 

Yes we can. I think what American did to American Indians was terrible, but please enlight us why what Russian did to Circassian and Checznya during the 1st and the 2nd Checznyan wars was a humanitarian action:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_war_crimes

 

Because, for example, the Chechens thank the Russians for the liberation of Chechnya from terrorists. Ask Kadyrov or any adequate resident of modern Chechnya.

 

I seem to recall Putin staging a false flag apartment bombing to create a casus belli in Chechnya, actually.

 

I appreciate you and a couple of others that haven't went down the path of "post paid for commercials on behalf of the Kremlin" as it just really a diversion from reality.

Anyone that thinks Russia wants all of Eastern Europe really doesn't understand the situation at all, nor have they studied Putin.

The fact is that NATO (the US) has been training Ukie troops since the 2014 US Coup....so much so....all of Ukie's nationalist - nazi- battalions were at NATO level, meaning as good as NATO battalions...when the Special Military Operation began in February. (As an aside, this 'training' was a violation of the Minsk Peace Agreements).

Nobody wants to talk about the fact that 'the ukraine' had a larger army than NATO in Europe....all trained up to NATO specs.

This build up, along with the import of NATO weapons, making ukraine a proxy NATO state is what prompted Russia to make a move.

Now the Ukie NATO army is getting its ass whooped. Instead of being a quick war, with Zelensky coming to the table to sort out Lugansk and Donetsk, the West got its ego bruised so it throws more weapons at ukraine. Won't matter.

If the West keeps up this propaganda war of "ukraine is winning/can win", ukraine will get smaller and smaller until it may not exist at all.

All over NATO. Said another way, all over Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics' profits (and the political kickbacks that come from them).

 

You are confusing. It was not Putin who blew up the houses, but Bush in New York, and these explosions were used as an excuse to try to occupy Afghanistan.

 

The former is fact, the latter a goofy conspiracy theory.

 

POT THIS IS KETTLE MOMENT

 

None of that is true.

 

Thanks for the toilet paper

 

You're the one spewing falsehoods.

 

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