American Gun Sales Collapse in 47 States

Now that's impressive. We have that sport here too I presume.
But that's different to the wholesale use of handguns in society, and 'assault rifles' - it's a different thing altogether.
It's just too easy to get handguns, and why do you want a handgun for? Hunting?

 

You have a 45-70 pistol?!?!?! That’s bad A! I have always wanted the heritage 45-70 pistol

 

Kids shooting someone is not a private decision and neither are accidents.

Disingenuous.

 

There is competitive shooting in Australia too, but I don't think the poster was asking you to move there.

 

Sorry, I can't work this out. I meant that 117,000 Americans were shot last year. About 45,000 of them died.
I know of no advanced country which would accept this.

 

we don’t care what a country thinks, we have rights as individuals. Self defense is pretty important in the US, our police have no obligation to protect us and they’re 30 minutes away when seconds count.

 

Yea, Magnum Research makes this one.

 

Please state a credible source supporting those numbers.

Also, there are over 60 countries around the world(1) including Russia, Greenland, Argentina, South Africa, and Brazil that have draconian gun control laws and higher homicide rates than the US.

Therefore, if stricter gun laws worked to reduce homicides, it would reduce homicide rates everywhere but they don't.

The most effective way to reduce homicide and suicide rates is for the US to adopt more affordable and more accessible mental health care like those "developed" countries have. (2)

Thanks,



(1) "Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) - Country Ranking"
https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings


(2) "The Mistake of Only Comparing US Murder Rates to "Developed" Countries"
https://mises.org/wire/mistake-only-...oped-countries

EXCERPT " Note, however, that these comparisons always employ a carefully selected list of countries, most of which are very unlike the United States.

They are countries that were settled long ago by the dominant ethnic group, they are ethnically non-diverse today, they are frequently very small countries (such as Norway, with a population of 5 million) with very locally based democracies (again, unlike the US with an immense population and far fewer representatives in government per voter).

Politically, historically, and demographically, the US has little in common with Europe or Japan.

The US has the highest murder rate in the "developed world" — presumably because of its lax guns laws —we are told again and again.

Few people who repeat this mantra have any standard in their heads of what exactly is the "developed" world. They just repeat the phrase because they have learned to do so."CONTINUED

 

who needs guns? half of the future criminals are gonna be trans and all calm from taking estrogen, leading to less crimes.

 

What were those who were shot doing when they were shot?

 

All of them were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and standing/sitting/kneeling/running in front of a bullet.

 

60% are suicides. The reality is people will find a way even if it is jumping in front of a train.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/...but-a-new-poll-suggests-few-americans-know-it

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/...but-a-new-poll-suggests-few-americans-know-it

 

Numbers in gun violence are hard to come by in modern day America - think about it. There was some act of Congress to STOP govt funding of gun violence - that says it all.
You are comparing the USA to some of the most grim third world narco nations. Not good. And then constricting the argument to 'intentional', not good,
Mental issues are GROWING in developed countries. For America this means centuries of gun violence ahead, and millions more dead. And as for the NON-MENTAL cases, they will keep blasting away.

 

Well they’re not going anywhere. We will keep our 2A and our freedoms, being a citizen beats being a subject. Criminals aren’t giving theirs up, and neither will Americans with a functioning brain.

 

The .45 Colt is a good caliber to reload. Factory ammo has an absurd cost and most of the factory loads are very low in power. I shoot a 255 cast bullet over 8.7 grains of Unique powder which seems to provide decent power knocking down metal targets and also accuracy.

 

Surely one or two were trying to rape someone and got shot for their illegal activity.

Are you saying that everyone that was shot by a gun was praying at the time?

 

Who knows. But in Australia/NZ/Japan/UK we don't live in fear of guns. I doubt many would-be rapists are actually shot by someone. And if every woman carried a gun to defend against rape then every rapist would come armed with a gun.

 

This is common.
In Melbourne Australia wannbe suicidals would go to the Westgate Bridge and jump.
It cost a lot to errect barriers and there was a protest from Vic Roads to that effect - they said those wanting to kill themselves would just go elsewhere and perform their act. But others said 'Not so, take away the bridge option and most won't go elsewhere.' And they were right: the barriers went up, there were no more Westgate suicides, the suicide rate went down.
I suppose it's the same for the Golden Gate in San Fran.
Guns are a ready option for that quick decision to top yourself off. Take away the gun and there's less quick, clean options. You could try drinking rat poison, or jumping from your roof etc..
Eighty percent of home shootings are caused by the homeowners.

 

Your doubt is based on what exactly? What do you people know about the US other than what you read in your liberal controlled news media, TV shows, movies, -- or if from down under claim to know by assuming your low population white demographic country in any way provides a model for what the US is like. It is great that you like your country, but the smug assumption and assertion of superiority from you people in almost every post here is astounding.

Here is an incident published this month in the NRA Armed Citizen web page. These incidents happen constantly. But I post this incident for purposes of discussion. So the woman is forced off the road after a car chase by a man intending rape at a minimum. Being in the US and allowed to have a gun she shot the guy. In you version of a perfect world what exactly would she do? Blow on a rape whistle perhaps.

An Atlanta, Ga., woman defended herself when she was allegedly pursued and cornered by a man claiming to be an off-duty police officer on May 15, 2022.

The woman, a ride-share driver, had just dropped off a passenger at a motel around 11 p.m. that Sunday night, when another vehicle approached and tried to block her in. Despite this, the woman was able to maneuver away and drove off to escape. The other vehicle pursued. As she was pursued, the other vehicle forced her off the road and caused a crash. After the crash, the driver of the pursuing vehicle got out and approached the wreck.

Fearing for her safety, the woman, still inside her wrecked car, produced a handgun and shot at the pursuing driver, wounding him in the process. When police arrived later on, the discovered that the 21-year-old wounded driver was impersonating a police officer, and claimed to be off-duty. He was treated for his injuries and arrested for multiple charges. The ride-share driver was uninjured in the incident. (foxnews.com, New York, N.Y., 05/16/2022)

 

My uncle in Dallas Texas was forced off the road by a bikie. Oddly enough. Damaged his gearbox. He broke this bikie's finger. The bikie ran back to his bike to get his gun and my uncle said, in his Texas drawl, 'Ah went home to get ma guuuunnnn'
We said, "Bill, we are Australians! We don't THINK like that!"
To this day he says, 'I wish you Australians can have guunnns.'

Anecdotes are one thing, brutal statistics are another.
In Australia uncle Bill's incident would have been a brawl or a police report, nothing else.

 

thats awesome, we don’t live in fear of guns either. At least if every woman carried a gun she’d have a chance against the rapist.

is there a reason you don’t want the women in the US to have at least a chance to win?

 

Ha ha. And if every child, plus their teachers and janitors took a gun to school there wouldn't be a fear of mass school shootings.

 

nope. Again, why not give women a chance to not be raped or die? That’s not a hard question.

 

And why not give kids at school a chance of life? Pack a 9mm in with their lunch, keep it on the desk for an emergency - forget the conceal and carry business, it's their right.

 

Of course the woman in the story I provided was not you uncle and you declined to say what she should have done. As I expected you would do.,