Russian missiles struck NATO ally Poland and killed 2 people, US defense official tells AP

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  1. drluggit

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    The Pentagon spokesman has confirmed this. Guess MSNBC is still waiting for their talkingpointsmemo update...
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Russia has issued a complete denial, as expected...
     
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    Perhaps it means your children go into the meatgrinder. Not my kids. If progressives think Ukraine is dying for, then they should dying.

    Since I don't trust American officials any more than Russian officials, we are going to need the evidence proving the strike came from Russia and was not an American false flag event. They lied us into the Iraq war with "phantom weapons of mass destruction". I have learned not to underestimate the mendacity of my own government.
     
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    Gee, then Ukraine must have targeted Poland just for sh**s and giggles....the Russian and RW propagandists will be all over blaming Ukraine and Biden in a few. Conspiracy RW nuts are going to be on this like stink on...****.
     
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    Perhaps you can't honor your agreements. Does not mean that others won't do it for you.
     
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    So let me make sure I have this correct,

    You are saying Putin is only doing this because he “believes he has the approval of Biden to do so” and also Biden is willing to have “a really big war” over it?

    And then for some reason you are defending trump and republicans that were not mentioned in my post.

    How strange.
     
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    And even more, how delusional....WTF!
     
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    If it is determined it was purposeful I hope the full action of NATO abides by their charters unlike what we did when Ukraine agreed to nuclear disarmament.
     
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    In a few?? Have you not read page 1 of this thread?? Seems Joe was able to simultaneously be asleep in Bali AND launch Russian missiles towards NATO.... I bet he was solving today's Wordle at the same time.

    Zelensky is reporting this Poland story happened during a large-scale attack on Ukrainian infrastructure, including Lviv (near Polish border).

    Coincidence?
     
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    The Putin Bros: Biden is so weak, Putin knows he can get away with anything.

    Also the Putin Bros: Biden is trying to drag us into war if he does anything about Putin.
     
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    So, not an answer? How shocking... Who is the Joe Biden then? Innocent bystander?
     
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    I'd have no idea how you would determine that... 2 missiles going off target during a general missile attack of a large Ukrainian city SOUNDS like an accident, but a totalitarian regime cannot admit to accidents, so there it stands...

    This story was published 2 hours before the Polish angle... Lviv is mentioned twice...

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...es-capital-smoke-rising-over-city-2022-11-15/
     
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    Both Biden and Obama negotiated with Iran and Obama negotiated with as qaeda. If it ends the war it ends the war.
     
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    Do you honestly believe that the US wants to go to war with Russia ?
     
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    Biden isn’t shooting missiles from Russia as far as I know. The implication is absurd honestly.

    Are you saying that the President of the United States is responsible for all global conflict and not the individuals that are pressing the button?
     
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    Democrats.... Dang it Vlad, you weren't supposed to do this until after the House was settled....

    Biden..... Oh jeez.... Let me at him... I'll pummel that Russian dude into the ground just like CornPop......

    Schumer... Oy... None of my kids are military age....

    Austin.... I'm gonna be just like Powell... Glory days.....

    Pelosi..... Geez.. now we don't have to explain what that Depape dude was doing in the house....
     
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    Makes sense. What should the world's reaction be to the 10s of thousands of innocent civilians killed by errant American missiles in sovereign countries over the past two decades?

    Given you have no children, you don't have a dog in this hunt. Simple as. There is no "we" involved. The people who say "we" are the people who get sent into mindless meatgrinders that serve no American interest. Chicken hawks don't qualify as "we".
     
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    So, when Joe promised he'd turn a blind eye on Ukraine, and let Vlad off the leash, what did you say then?
     
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    Maybe i am spoiled with how accurate our weapons are, but this seems like too far away from Lviv for it to be just an accident.

    I think Putin is just testing our reaction. He knows we aren't going to nuke him for this, and he suspects there will no response. He hopes the lack of response will give aid to those to argue that NATO is useless.
     
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    Not really. Our diplomats told Saddam Hussein we had no interests in stopping him from invading Kuwait in retaliation for them diagonal drilling into Iraq.

    Rabbit and the briar patch. They attack, we get to transfer trillions from working people to a corrupt elite.
     
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    The people don't. The American government absolutely does and has been making moves in this regard for months now. We have incompetent psychopaths running the government. Have you not paid any attention to their rhetoric at all? It is pre-Iraq war all over again.
     
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    No, it’s setting a line, as all presidents have done in these situations since Washington crossed the Delaware.

    We HAVE to set some lines in the sand. We cant let ANYONE just take over countries. Thats been US policy since we became a nation. Hell, its why we spend more than the next 9 countries combined on defense. Thats what we actually use as a justification for that spending, it that we’re are the “worlds police”.

    We fought was over it. The Nazi’s didnt bomb Perl Harbor………
     
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    When Trump was negotiating with Kim after Kim sent up a few rockets, I always wanted the USA to gets missile defense into an even higher gear. No reason not to now
     
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    I don't know that the missiles would have been fired from Russian territory. The Russian border is a good way off from Poland but if Russia is operating out of Belarus (which one would presume they are) then there could have been an accident.

    It's WAY too early to look at this as anything intentional but it SHOULD be a wake up call for NATO to start taking this invasion crap more seriously than the finger wagging and sanctions that have done nothing. The LAST thing we need is a proxy war in Ukraine but that seems to have been the consensus plan from day one.
     
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