TN: Tyre Nichols was 'defenseless' during his 'savage' beating by police, attorneys say

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  1. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

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    Fighting with police certainly is one way to tempt fate.
     
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    This situation is barbaric , deplorable and fitting of a backward county. How is this conduct an example of "a nation of laws"??
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That is so stupid. It is unconstitutional for the Slave Patrollers to deprive a person of his life =
    "Text of Section 8:
    That no man shall be taken or imprisoned, or disseized of his freehold, liberties or privileges, or outlawed, or exiled, or in any manner destroyed or deprived of his life, liberty or property, but by the judgment of his peers, or the law of the land."
    https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_Tennessee_Constitution

    "Text of Section 13:
    That no person arrested and confined in jail shall be treated with unnecessary rigor."
    https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_Tennessee_Constitution

    "Text of Section 16:
    That excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
    https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_Tennessee_Constitution

    "Text of Section 17:
    That all courts shall be open; and every man, for an injury done him in his lands, goods, person or reputation, shall have remedy by due course of law, and right and justice administered without sale, denial, or delay. Suits may be brought against the state in such manner and in such courts as the Legislature may by law direct."
    https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_Tennessee_Constitution

    "Text of Section 35:
    To preserve and protect the rights of victims of crime to justice and due process, victims shall be entitled to the following basic rights:

    Section 35a
    Text of Section 35a:
    The right to confer with the prosecution.

    Section 35b
    Text of Section 35b:
    The right to be free from intimidation, harassment and abuse throughout the criminal justice system.

    Section 35c
    Text of Section 35c:
    The right to be present at all proceedings where the defendant has the right to be present.

    Section 35d
    Text of Section 35d:
    The right to be heard, when relevant, at all critical stages of the criminal justice process as defined by the General Assembly.

    Section 35e
    Text of Section 35e:
    The right to be informed of all proceedings, and of the release, transfer or escape of the accused or convicted person.

    Section 35f
    Text of Section 35f:
    The right to a speedy trial or disposition and a prompt and final conclusion of the case after the conviction or sentence.

    Section 35g
    Text of Section 35g:
    The right to restitution from the offender.

    Section 35h
    Text of Section 35h:
    The right to be informed of each of the rights established for victims.

    The General Assembly has the authority to enact substantive and procedural laws to define, implement, preserve and protect the rights guaranteed to victims by this section."
    https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_Tennessee_Constitution

    Far too many people around the world want to live in an oppressive police state. It's time to value freedom and liberty and not to be oppressed and deprived of life by agents of the state.
     
  4. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That isn’t what I asked
     
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    What does your question mean? How will the Left "play" this? Do you mean, how will people on the Left, react to the brutal beating of someone, by cops who are black? If so, the question shows how utterly clueless you are about "the Left." Apparently it is beyond your ability to grasp that people would be against police violence, period? Not against police violence, only because the victim is black. Nor, only against police violence, as long as the policemen are not black. Really-- completely clueless.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is just pathetic-- to claim it is a lie that their relative died from a traffic stop, because it took three days for him to die of his injuries, from that beating. You realize that his death, 3 days later, was not from some unrelated cause, right? It was directly tied to the beating. So where is the lie-- other than (let's note) in your post?
     
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  7. Andrew Jackson

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    Lolwut?:roflol:
    "how will the Left play this"?
    ^The SAME way they would "play it" IF the Cops were White, Hispanic, or Asian...
     
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    Looks like they play if the same way as always, which goes on to prove its about the cops actions rather than the skin color. The cops were charged with 2nd degree murder super fast.
     
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    Are they rioting over it yet and tearing up their own City?
     
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    That's missing a racial angle and if you want to promote social outrage you need a racial aspect to focus on.
     
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    They expect protests, so we'll see. His mother made a plea for people to not riot, and they already charged all 5 cops with 2nd degree murder charges so lets hope it won't get too bad. Obviously in this case there is no racial argument, since all cops were black as was the victim. Also, the winter helps the law enforcement, since rioting is rare in the winter.
     
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    In situations where Crump comes to town you need to charge quickly and aggressively as a hedge against civil unrest.
     
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    Does that mean that this will be another excuse for rioting and looting?
     
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    We will see what the reason for protests are — if it is demanding justice then that seems to be happening as all officers involved have been fired and charged. No one is making excuses for them besides the typical posters here.

    If rioting happens after that then it is more about destruction or free stuff than justice.
     
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    Actions have consequences. Is the legal punishment for police officers who pull someone over to be shot by the criminal? That happens too.

    maybe the win is to, I don’t know, not run from the police and fight with them.
    Has anyone considered that option?
     
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    Bahahahahahhahahaaha you lost it at slave patrollers. Well, a gosh a mighty, y’all seent any slaves in these parts?
     
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    Have you arrested many criminals? How did you decide when it’s ok to let them run away into public and let them go?
     
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    So you feel police should have shot all individuals in non-compliance with the Capital insurrection, correct?

    Or should they always seek to use the least possible force in each situation?
     
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    the lie is specifically that. Is there an autopsy report? Toxicology? No.

    until that document is released the family is just winding people up for a cash settlement. Crump is helping since he’s an ambulance chasing race baiter.
     
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    Actually not looking forward to seeing this video. Officers already charged with manslaughter and national guard being called up so it has to be horrible optics.

    Nobody likes to see a smaller man beaten to death and pleading for his mother while its happening by 5 large government agents. I only mention large and small because its a natural reaction in most instances with humans(at least from what i have seen from the pictures on their physical appearance).
     
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    I'm trying to explain something you cannot understand. If you fight with the police you put yourself in an uncontrolled environment? Try arresting someone before you pretend it’s a simple matter.
    Any of those capitol people who were a threat to the safety of officers could most certainly be shot. It’s a good thing I thought that whole mess was a stupid idea.
     
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    He ran from the cops. We know that much. I'll reserve comment until we see the video.
     
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    Problem being with reports and toxicology can kinda be moot at this juncture due to the fact the state has already charged the officers with murder and are concerned enough about the video that they are calling up the national guard.

    You can think either way you want about it, but likely when you and everyone else sees the video there will be a point when you are going to say that hey that's probably enough beating him to take him into custody and they will continue beating him. I mean they obviously went to far thus the charges against them and the mans death.
     
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    The NG is being called up in Georgia, not Tennessee?
     
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    The state will ALWAYS charge them so the family and public does not think it's being swept under the rug. If they view the evidence and it supports the murder charge then that's the evidence. and it would be deserved.

    I can't say they went too far because he may have been under the influence of something that contributed to his death, like fent.
     
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