TN: Tyre Nichols was 'defenseless' during his 'savage' beating by police, attorneys say

I'm equally interested in seeing the videos.

The closest I've come to handcuffing a resisting individual was when I worked on an Emergency Psychiatric Unit for a large inner-city.
The police would pick up raving psychotics many of whom were temporarily homicidal and bring them to us to be stabilized, diagnosed and later, sent to a longer term facility.

Because we were so pitifully understaffed and the Security Guards were afraid to come to our unit, I had to restrain resisting patients myself while trying to inject a sedative. Because I wrestled in High School and the Army and am about 6' 2" and 250 pounds, I was able to restrain most resisting patients without injury to the patient.
In order to safely sedate larger patients amped up on meth, I insisted on help usually in the form of LEOs.

One of our "regulars" was about 6' 9" and 325 pounds who required 5 - 6 LEOs just to bring him to us when he was on Angel Dust. Because he was also in S.E. Asia during the Vietnam War, I was able to develop a good rapport when he was stabilized. We even joked about rolling around on the seclusion room floor and would occasionally meet on the streets but about every 4 months he would go off of his medications, get back on Angel Dust and we'd start all over again.

So, yes, I can guess how hard it is to handcuff an angry, resisting person and maybe we'll see to what degree the victim resisted.

Thanks,

 

The 3 officers in tactical gear and long rifles literally standing right next to her on her side of the door were more than sufficient. At 120lbs, unarmed, ONE of them could of grabbed her by the arm and pulled her away.
And the size of the rioters behind her isnt relevant. You cant kill someone up front to dissuade the others.

 

This is exactly the problem.

What they want is the freedom to do whatever they want with no interference from civil authorities. There is zero logic in running from the police. When I was an LEO there was a simple rule about fishing where the fish are (someone else said it recently here) because that's how you reduce crime.

If the goal is to reduce violent crime then you increase the police presence in an area and make sure you have probable cause for all your stops. Now people get mad that you catch criminals doing criminal **** because you went where...gasp...they do crime. We had maps showing where the crime was located so you knew where to be effective.

I also don't believe something just because an attorney says so, since he gets paid on the size of the settlement.

 

I'm not going to read all 4 pages of this, but how do you THINK the "left" will play this??

LOL

They are rarely the group that exhibits blatant hypocrisy.

Please IM me when somebody from "the left" posts - "Dude deserved it" (which I'm positive somebody from "the right" already has, posts unseen)..

3 people say the video is pretty bad.... I'm sure I'll stumble across it over the weekend...

 

Well the obvious answer to your question, which you apparently missed by accident or design/agenda is that the cops in this incident have been arrested and charged with murder in accordance with legal requirements. i.e., per the rule of law.

 

Na, you just exposed your lack of nuance, typical.

 

The law disagrees with you
These officers have been removed and charged with murder. But thanks for showing your opinion

 

The law disagrees with you but thanks for your opinion.

They had every right to defend themselves and the congress critters they were sworn to protect.

Vs this situation where it was 5 v 1 and he was on the ground.

 

Is that what I asked you?

 

I don’t have to have previously arrested someone to be able to form an opinion nor to listen to the remarks of the police department and DA.

Your question was irrelevant and quite frankly absurd

 

Nope. Police can only use deadly force when there is a threat of death or serious bodily harm from the victim. An unarmed, I20 lb woman with three officers in tactical gear with long rifles by her side presents no such threat.

 

Of cour

of course it's absurd. You have never once arrested anyone, you have no working knowledge of mechanics of arrest or applicable penal codes, just a willingness to say this was murder. How exactly do you know he was on the ground, may I ask?

Have you seen the vid?
I think there's a saying about this, beginning of the week quarterbacks and such. So you have no idea what the law agrees with nor do you know it's not unusual for officers to be charged and brought before a grand jury. That's a fact not an opinion.

Let's see what the toxicology report says. His report card says he's an idiot who runs from the cops, which usually ends poorly.

 

There was threat of bodily injury due to the number of officers that were injured. Are you serious?

 

Thats what the police have said as well as the family that have viewed the video. They have both said he was kicked repeatedly and that doesn’t typically happen with someone standing.

Or I just have the capacity to read. Try it sometimes

So if he was high that gives permission for the officers to beat him until he dies from his injuries?

 

Ashley didnt do any of that. Shes a little 120lb lady.

 

She didn’t have to personally do it — she was part of a riot that was doing it. It’s funny to watch you people argue “they should just comply” and then watch you switch to “that’s different” when it was the seditious traitors.

 

I'm sorry kicking a standing person is not unusual at all. You just assumed that, after reading what you want to into it.

If he was high on something that prevented them from handcuffing him in a normal fashion he may die. That's the whole point, if you ever fight a meth lunatic this will make sense, they don't feel anything and they're suddenly very strong. After they've been subdued, and the fight stops the drugs are still going, people die from this all the time. A smart person doesn't do that. Or run from the cops. If he'd have sat there like everyone else who gets stopped his dumb ass would be home disappointing his mother.

It helps to actually have experience with something like this. Ask Grau how hard it is to subdue someone on fent/meth/coke or other things.

 

Ah yes, the drugs killed him

Have you seen the video? Or are you pulling this from somewhere else? I am at lease going off of first hand reports while you just seem to be making excuses for accused murderers.

I guess y’all haven’t found how many parking tickets he has to exploit that yet?

 

So you didn't bother to do a basic search before typing this? Anyway, to help catch you up: https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/w...trage-and-race-is-still-involved-161680965819

 

I did not see any video, which is why we don't know if he was lying down when kicked. You are just making up anything to help you call these guys murderers.

Maybe if you ever arrested anyone who was drugged out of their head you might understand they can be a handful. More than one or two people will not be able to do it.

 

I am not saying anything — I am simply reading numerous reports. You should try it.

I really don’t care about your requirements. The actions of the police department to get ahead of this show how severe it is.

 

Marvelous. You just called the cops a bunch of animals without an ounce of humanity in them and no idea about the constitution.

 

Just imagine the stuff cops used to get away with before bodycams, even mobile phones. Latinka Hancock, a perfectly reasonable black woman was absolutely battered by a white cop the other day and the only reason it's being investigated is because someone was recording it on a phone.

 

The left?

You righties are the ones in a bind.

Black victims are ALWAYS guilty according to you and you absolutely support anything law enforcement does.

But now all the cops are black. My heavens you all don't what side to take now. That corner getting tight isn't it?

 

Its all on video. The three tactical cops with long guns standing right next to her didnt say anything. The guy that shot her said nothing. What wasnt she complying with?