TN: Tyre Nichols was 'defenseless' during his 'savage' beating by police, attorneys say

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I agree completely.

I know I'm not telling you anything you don't already know but it's especially difficult to restrain a violent person without hurting them.

That's why experience in wrestling came in handy where the object of the sport is to restrain / immobilize your opponent and not intentionally injure them.

When you were an LEO, did you receive specific training for restraining violent individuals and deescalating violent confrontations?

Thanks,

 

They weren’t just fired, they were charged with 2nd degree murder and they still plan on violence once the video is released. Not sure why violence is needed when the justice system is obviously working

 

It's all on video, which is how we know you didn't watch the video. The other cops were walking downstairs, not standing next to her. She was breaching the final barricade. She wasn't complying to commands to stop breaching the final barricade after already illegally being in the building in the first place. Any rightie telling you that they think it would have been criminal to shoot a leftist in the same situation is absolutely lying to you. There's no exception.

 

Numerous calls on bullhorns telling them all to vacate.
Had she had more than two brain cells to rub together maybe she could have figured it out. Now she has zero

The only travesty is that a single person was able to enter the closed door session of congress under their own power.

Would you like to return to the topic?

 

Why assault the police. Why not just be arrested like a normal person?

 

It's not possible to restrain an adult without hurting them. One - on - one it's never happening, as you know from experience.

We received very basic training in the academy but nothing after that. And that's how steven seagal got my ass whipped a lot. I decided to be an aikido guy until I was belted. it worked ok in law enforcement but barely. I then took my proud face to a proper mma school and got destroyed. over, and over, it took a long time for me to realize that was just poor form, and switched to where I am today.

Our school has several police officers, all but one are black guys. the one main difference as a BJJ submission artist vs LEO attempting to cuff people is the first basic principal; position-transition-submission. in uniform you cannot behave like you're on a mat because your primary and secondary weapons are there for people to grab and use against you.

this is why a lot of cops don't want to get in tight, which you know is key to a structural submission. that and every cop that comes to our school these days thinks they're awesome, and they get tapped by a 15 year old girl white belt with 2 stripes, and cry in the parking lot.

I'm pretty interested in the vid, and why this guy ran in the first place. it's not like the officers are unaware they have cams on, they know they do.

 

Wow couldn't agree more!!! The bottom line is why run in the first place, a lawyer friend of mine says he was tazed and kept fighting but who knows. I mean if a cop makes a stop, some guy runs, they have to chase, you can't let some crazy go on hurting innocent people and good god once subdued lay the f off the guy. This is despicable.

 

lol, you're judging this based on nothing more than the claims of an attorney and charges. if this guy was looped out on fent or other drug this will get deeper for those making apologies for the criminal.

 

Slave patrollers? Come on it was 5 black cops, don't bring race into this nonsense.

 

It doesn't matter why he ran. It doesn't matter if he kept fighting after being tazed.

The police are our employees, and we should demand they do better.

 

It most certainly does matter. the police can use force to effect an arrest, if the person keeps fighting you most certainly can keep tasing them. it's in the class you take to be certified to use one.

 

Kind of where things get fuzzy. Cops are sworn to protect the people, somebody tries to grab their gun or shots at them etc, they can and should, defend themselves. BLM has literally rioted when a black man was shot while threatening the police with deadly force.

 

While I agree here, no employee of ours should have his life threatened or taken, without the ability to use deadly force. Something is going on here, these officers were on a special organized crime unit. There are no mobs in Memphis, so that means gangs. Considering what we know about what happened, one of these guys may have been on the take. It just makes zero sense that they would beat this guy that bad for fun.

 

Well, if you come to Texas, I will have them hog tie you and then proceed with you what they the police officers did to Trye Nichols. Would you be defenseless or not?

Granted, it is not exactly the same as what happened, BUT it still begs the question that you need to answer in this hypothetical situation.

 

I'm not aware if the guy assaulted the cop. I doubt it.

And what kind of stupid excuse is this? Cops are not above the law. Excess violence is a violation of any person's constitutional rights. And they beat them to death. So you know like the meme goes.... "straight to jail".

 

It doesn't matter in a case where a man was beaten to death.

There isn't anything he could have possibly done that would have warranted being beaten to death.

 

These five officers were rightly fired based on what the video described. It started innocent enough with a routine traffice stop, but somehow went down the deep, dark, rabbit hole that appears to be worse than the Rodney King Beating in LA. There is absolutely no excuse for these officers and no firearm was found on the young lad or in his car.. According to police, "a confrontation" occurred after the young man fled and was later apprehended. It should have ended there. But instead, they beat the living daylights out of the young man and left a lot out of their initial report, a lot of stuff out, from their own body cames.

Police are trained to de-escalate situations and only to use force, any force, when absolutely necessary. They are also trained for detail in giving the reports, as much detail as possible. They failed on both counts here.

 

He may have been a snitch. That's the only reason, like some others have mentioned. We will likely not find out the real reason.

 

I think there is definitely more to it, and we will be hearing more about the Scorpion Unit of the MPD in the future.

 

I want them to subdue dangerous criminals and keep us safe.

 

???? No they were standing on the stairs. Her head fell to the floor 1 ft from the closest cop, and it was 4 tactical cops with long guns, not 3. My mistake
Capitol shooting that led to Ashli Babbitt's death captured on video (nbcnews.com)

 

They were walking down the stairs. She was standing in the broken window that she was trying to breech when she was shot.

 

99% of the violent George Floyd protests came after the cop was arrested and put in jail. Democrat politicians encouraged them to continue protesting. Media worked hard to justify and minimize them. With Biden in office the politicians and media wont do that so shouldnt be too severe.

 

I expect them to do better.

 

Nooooo. Maybe the additional other 2 cops NOT in tactical gear, turned and walked out of frame and down the stairs. At the beginning of the video Ashley is at the top of the stairs and FOUR tactical cops armed with long rifles are on the stairs directly behind her. 4 cops with body armor, pads and helmets werent walking down the stairs because a window was broke. The other two cops standing next to the door in face masks at the beginning of the video may not of even been armed, turned and walked out of frame in response to the window being broken. Reasonable with 4 tactical cops in pads and helmets right there. Unarmed Ashley was literally surrounded by 5 cops on one side of the door and there wasnt any reason for the cop on the other side of the door to shoot her dead.