I just sent an e-mail off to the KC Chiefs--others should do the same for their local team

That's all well and good but that's not what you were answering. We weren't talking about them being world class athletes, we were talking about the job being dangerous and that the owners don't care about the players and their health. This is what you said (because you obviously don't remember)
"The players work their butts off in hopes of making into the NFL, where they get paid A LOT of money (by anyone's standards) to do a job that they have voluntarily worked their whole lives to get.

My point is, everyone who has a dangerous job, knows the risks, and choose to do it of their own free will, and are paid accordingly for it."

Coal miners have a dangerous job, police have a dangerous job, firefighters have a dangerous job....are they paid millions accordingly? No. In the scheme of life, which is more important to a society? Miners, police, firefighters or athletes? Do the police play the national anthem everyday. Is it played at the firehouse everyday? Are they less patriotic than ballplayers because they don't? Are you starting to see the ridiculousness of this whole thing. Why is the anthem played at ballgames?

 

Sounds like you're trying to coerce them into showing patriotism, which isn't patriotic in itself.

 

No I'm not sensitive about it at all.

I'm used to the knuckle dragging type of people who refer to all non-liberal whites as Nazi's, and all non-liberal blacks as uncle-toms and mediocre negroes.

It simply means you can't win the debate on the point, so you revert to your natural instincts of believing you're superior and calling other people names.

Par for the course really.

 

Because the founders stated that sports events are sacred for the proliferation of democracy, but they did not have the chance to formalize this edict in a document. Also, when The Star Spangled Banner was written in 1814, Francis Scott Key would not allow the use of the music or lyrics unless it was forever associated with football games.

 

Yea bud , like 50 years ago , times change.... except for lefties ... without calling everyone who disagree with them racist , they might actually have to do something productive. Novel concept .

 

No, I said his employer has a right to set reasonable work rules.

Now about your phony accusation regarding the ISP... let's have that link.

 

Absolutely, but the decline in attendance both at the games and viewers tells the tale.

 

It will likely be temporary. If not, oh well. The players make the team. They are putting their livelihood in jeopardy to make a statement.

 

Well, you should be used to it. I mean, after all....

 

Well, let's see...

Someone introduces Franco Harris as an example of what NFL players think of the protests...
I point out that the era to which Harris refers was much different than today...
You respond by pointing out that the era to which Harris refers is much different than today.

Then we agree. Harris opinion, as it relates to player behavior in 1974 vs 2017 is irrelevant.

 

I agree and hope the public responds in kind.

 

... you can't win the debate.

 

why does the Right hate Freedom of Speech?

 

No, there is no "employer." There are players under contract with teams. The parameters are defined in the player's contract as well as the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Did it bother you when Tebow took his knee? No?
He was expressing an opinion with which you agree.

I wasn't bother by Tebow nor am I bothered by the current protests BECAUSE...

As long as it occurs outside the grid, is not a violation of playing rules, and is not illegal it is not my business.

You don't want to watch? DON'T WATCH.
But be honest with yourselves over your reasoning.

Those Black men pointing out that your White society doesn't equally serve all its members makes you uncomfortable. That's a you problem.

 

I fully support them doing whatever they want on their own time and dime.

Can you wear a BLM shirt while you're at work?

 

Already won sonny.

When you stand for the anthem you're expressing your opinion.
When others kneel they're expressing their opinions.

You don't object to the standing and you don't object to Tebowish "prayers" so the problem for you isn't the act. It is the message and the race of those promoting the message.

 

There is no employer.

 

You didn't win anything.

You're "there is no employer" is a great line that shows the ridiculousness of your pathetic argument.

 

No, it shows your ignorance of the legal relationship between an NFL team its players.

Wouldn't it be great if those nasty Black and Hispanic players would just stay out of "our" sports?

 

At times like these I wish we had a device that we could use to answer simple question, or to give us definitions for words....oh yeah we do.

em·ploy
əmˈploi/
verb
verb: employ; 3rd person present: employs; past tense: employed; past participle: employed; gerund or present participle: employing
1.
give work to (someone) and pay them for it.

Well I'd say that answers that part. I'm sure it's really really complicated though and I couldn't understand the minutia of your "there is no employer" argument.

As for your last sentence, I'm not sure why you hate black and brown people so much, but they've been the majority for decades now.

The black and brown 1%. Besides they're not all black/brown. Hell, Kaepernik is whiter than me.

 

Colin Kaepernick is welcome to come here and discuss his views with us all day long. I'll be glad to handily illustrate how completely full of **** he is.

Now about that bullshit ISP claim you've tried to attribute to me... for the third time, where is your evidence?

 

Yeah his interviews are riveting.

Personally I think he only did it to try and prove he wasn't white.

Guy grows up with white parents and every conceivable privilege. I'm sure that went down well with his teammates.

 

Jim Brown was a football star when? 1960? The stupid Browns players did the dumb kneeling thing. Then Jim Brown "talked" to them. They stood after he did that.

I guess the players still listen to the old guys.

 

The problem is that they are disrespecting the country. By doing so, they are demonstrating their lack of understanding of the issues.

Why do YOUR socialist ideals require black people to be kept from realizing the advantages of our system? Is it self-serving perhaps?

 

I went to the Olympics and don't recall having to stand for anyone else's national anthems..