I just sent an e-mail off to the KC Chiefs--others should do the same for their local team

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    The NFL owns the brand. They get to make the rules.
     
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    I don't care what one butthead player does, but I do care about a team allowing it. My company stresses, stresses, stresses public perception and good will and they would be very upset if I wore a company hat or shirt at a hateful anti American protest and it went out on tv for the world to see. Why do you guys think Antifa covers their faces? It so they dont lose their jobs at Burger King.
     
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    Not in any way a First Amendment issue.
     
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    Well if you need to be protected from being offended...maybe you should take advantage of that which you subsidize (how is that again?)
     
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    What else would you suggest? Setting fires to buildings? Looting? Bike locks?

    I'm new at this, teach me how to be violent and destructive.
     
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    If these players are free to exercise their first amendment rights without penalty from their employer while at work, I should be able to exercise my second amendment rights without penalty from my employer while at work.

    The NFL players are there to represent their employer, who controls how his team is portrayed in public. The players behavior is limited in their contracts. They can be punished for off field behavior that makes the team look bad, criminal behavior, and how they wear their uniform or behave during the event. Many are even required to speak to the media after the game. In the same way, I have to obey my boss and not carry a gun in the office if I want to keep my job. There is no difference.

    The NFL players can act like they want and the owners can punish them as they see fit. Nobody wants to arrest the players. I can carry a gun at the office and my boss can fire me for it. He can't have me arrested for it unless I violate the law and am still violating the law when the police arrive.
     
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    So you make this claim if the cop is also black? Or do black cops simply refuse to stop blacks?
     
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    lack cops often show the same bias as white ones.

    That doesn't male it any better...nor does it have any relevance to this thread
     
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    I wonder if Colin Kaepernick that embarrassed my local team got his hands on two brain cells to see how he makes the team he used to play for look? Had he got the support of the entire team, it would be different. If he told his boss on the 49ers his plans, at least the boss could say his bit. But Colin chose the path of trying to embarrass the entire nation and himself as well. Well, he still wants a job. Collect for him, Colin supporters and you cover his paycheck.
     
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    Speak for yourself, he didn't embarrass me. Perhaps you need your safe space.

    And why should I have to cover his paycheck? now you are talking nonsense.
     
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    And who are you that anyone have to respect eh? You didn't care that hate speech such as those espoused by Stormfront is an embarrassment, but when a guy won't stand for the Anthem, why, you shout at the top of your lungs about it. Your hypocrisy deserve no respect. Go yabber into someone else's ear about "liberal" whining list.
     
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    Using a leftist bias source...->
    An image of Donald Trump not placing his hand over his heart during the playing of the U.S. national anthem doesn't reflect reality.

    During the 2008 presidential campaign, a cottage industry was started from a single instance in which Democratic candidate Barack Obama, then a senator from Illinois, was captured on video standing with his hands clenched below his testicles (balls) during the playing of the U.S. national anthem at an Iowa steak fry attended by six top Democratic presidential candidates — an industry that subsequently spawned a plethora of false rumors after Senator Obama won the presidential elections, such as a claim that he wanted to change the national anthem to something more innocuous and a faked photograph showing him and his wife Michelle using their left hands to show respect for the U.S. flag.

    A similar item circulated (to lesser extent) during the 2016 presidential campaign, an image of GOP candidate Donald Trump apparently standing sullenly with his hands at his sides while others around him place their hands over their hearts in the standard gesture of respect for the U.S. flag:

    The background elements of this image indicate that it originated with the 15 December 2015 CNN Republican presidential debate held in Las Vegas: it was included in articles about that debate, where it was credited to David Becker of the Reuters news agency. However, we found no evidence that the moment captured in this image actually occurred during that debate.

    The debate was aired live on CNN, and it opened with the nine Republican candidates being introduced one-by-one, briefly posing together at the front of the stage for photographs, then remaining in place while the U.S. national anthem, “The Star-Spangled Banner,” was sung by Ayla Brown (daughter of former Massachusetts senator Scott Brown):

    We viewed the video of that event multiple times, but we found no instance during the singing of the national anthem in which Donald Trump could be seen in the pose shown above (with his hands at his sides). Every time Donald Trump was visible within the frame of the television coverage, he was standing with his hand over his heart, just like all the other candidates:

    There's more embarrassing leftist fake news from a liberal bias source...-> http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-flag-salute/
     
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    No.

    Can you wear your companies logo and go out and march, or can you hold a protest on company time.

    You know the answer.

    And no, you can't even always offer your own opinion at work.
     
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    You do realize this is about a FOOTBALL player(s) right :)
     
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    Thread win.

    Forum win.

    World champion.
     
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    Over-inflated preferably...
     
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    Wait - what?

    Kap & co. are the ones politicizing the game, not the fans.
     
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    Personally, I feel the football field isn't the place to protest. It's a sporting event, not a march or a rally. Also, these players are not oppressed. They for the most part are in the elite 1% portion of our population. But if they want to kneel, fine. I just think they picked the wrong venue. People go to sporting events to get away from all this hub bud of daily life and away from politics, away from the daily grind and news. They don't go to a sporting event to watch a protest.

    Even so, there is nothing here to get me upset one way or the other.
     
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    What you call "bias" on the part of police and including black police is simply support of the law and tradition.

    The law is the law. You are not to do as you please, you need to obey the law. You do not get to pick and chose what laws you will follow and those you wont.
     
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    Pulling over African Americans for nothing but "driving while black" may be a "tradition" but it's shameful.

    Check out what happened to Michael Bennet in Vegas just the other day
     
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    And where is your proof this is happening these days. Trying to keep alive what happened in the past is just trying to divide people.
     
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    "These days"?

    Do you know ANY black people?

    Philandro Castille had been pulled over FORTY times before he was finally killed. Never once arrested ...
     
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    The players work their butts off in hopes of making into the NFL, where they get paid A LOT of money (by anyone's standards) to do a job that they have voluntarily worked their whole lives to get.

    My point is, everyone who has a dangerous job, knows the risks, and choose to do it of their own free will, and are paid accordingly for it.
     
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    Isn't your argument one of "political correctness"? Also, where is an acceptable placed for them to express their opinion?
     

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