‘Evil and wicked’: At least 50 killed in Nigeria church attack

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  1. FreshAir

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    they do though as they are all the same God
     
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    Slavery and converting by the sword... are totally not related. A child can understand such a thing.

    And since you failed to prove that Muslims did not convert by the sword on a massive scale, still means you're conceding that it did not happen.
     
  3. Jack Hays

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    Slavery was the first act in forced conversion.
    Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism ...
    https://www.amazon.com › Islamic-Jihad-Conversion-I...


    Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery Paperback – January 26, 2009 ; Kindle $6.49 Read with Our Free App ; Hardcover $34.95 · 2 ...
     
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    Post 162 disagrees; though Africa being such a good source of slaves was largely due to the expansionism of the Bantu cultures in the beginning and the superior suitability of African people as slaves was due to their greater disease resistance
     
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    Whereas the Christians, beginning with Charlemagne's benign beheading of Saxons who backslid into the Old Ways and continuing on with the Inquisition which was founded mainly to make sure that Jewish conversos weren't secretly reading the Torah, among very many others, had tolerant Roses growing from their butts.
     
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    The author of #162 needs to defend that. As I wrote previously, everyone can find what they look for in Africa.
     
  8. Jack Hays

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    I can't do your reading for you.
     
  9. Jack Hays

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    Nope. You'll find no post of mine touting any religion's tolerance.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Not unexpected in the 2nd largest continent.
     
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    The first action of the first caliphate following Muhammad's death was to wage the wars of apostasy against their own people because they stopped paying the tax to Mecca following his death.
     
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    Conversion or death was for the idolaters. Most of the population of the lands they conquered. For idolaters

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    Literally convert or die. For Christians and Jews

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    Convert or accept your life of subjection.
     
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    You have Planned Parenthood to thank for creating a worldwide demand for white babies.

    In the 90s there were even stories about babies being kidnapped in Guatemala and sold on the American adoption market.
     
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    Nobody cares about the poor Christians murdered in Africa... the media cares about a Palestinian Bedouin journalist who died during crossfire between IDF and Arab terrorists.
    Carry on ...
     
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    You're free to prove how this is converting by the sword.
    As far as I see. It's a tax issue.
     
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    [9.6] And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah.


    All you're doing is showing you are rather aquatint with Islamophobic sites where you copy past this crap from.
    Does it take one to find one of those sites, and even worse... refuse to give up?

    So what that non Muslims must pay taxes. In the end, non Muslims do not need to serve in a Muslim army, but they are protected them in return.
    A non Muslim can get exempt from paying those taxes if they serve the army. So in the end, they get more choices then a Muslim.

    And this has nothing to do with converting.



    In the end. The Christian Church was far more violent in their ways of making people convert or die, even if it wasn't written down in the bible. Jews fled to the Ottoman Muslim empire to escape being murdered. Pilgrim fathers also fled. It's a theme all around where Christians were. Average Christian life was very much how extreme Isis behaved. Isis who was at war with the average Muslim world and lost.

    And you can not stand it.


    And FYI, last time I checked, the Christians blame the murder of Jesus on the Jews... according to the bible. Till eternity.
    Anti-semitism will never go away when Christianity is around.
     
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    Antisemitism has been dominated in the past by Christianity.
    Today Arab Islam is leading it.
     
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    "Apostasy" isnt a tax issue.
     
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    Your making stuff up .. don't have a grasp on history. Conversion by the Sword was far more common in Christian Land.

    You then laughably bring up the Jews .. who were running to Muslim lands for protection from the Sword of the Christians.. not forced to convert..

    Quoting scripture is laughable .. as it does not mirror history .. what folks actually did / or do now. .. would you like me to produce some "Christian Scripture" of equivalent nature .. Child Sacrifice .. Mass slaughter of Children and Innocents commanded .. then pretend that Christians act according to that scripture as you are trying to do ? . a joke of an argument mate .. your post in general a big fail.
     
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    That's just a racist remark, casually ignoring the only Jew nation is violently oppressing Arabs for the last 60 years and started out by ethnic cleansing +700.000 Arabs. Nothing of the sort happened between Arabs and Jews for over a 1000 years before it. All the Jews are angry about, is that they fight back.
     
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    You claimed "because they stopped paying the tax to Mecca following his death."
    So it's a tax issue.
     
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    Those are accurate quotes from the koran. I made up nothing.

    I never said otherwise. Looking for your next strawman to slay?

    The history of caliphates from 632 until the 1920s says otherwise.



    Sure. Probably something from the old testament no doubt.
     
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    who said your quotes were not accurate .. who accused you of making those quotes up .. and why are you telling me about it .. while crying strawman .. in priceless irony ..

    Who made up the big fat strawman here mate ? English not first language ?
     
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    Because YOU replied "Your making stuff up".
     
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    Well you are making up the interpretation of it, as if the quotes mean that Muslims should kill the infidel etc.
    You're just ripping single lines out of context, on purpose.

    I dunno how we can not label this as anti-Islam propaganda
     
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